Scaramucci Drops A Big B.0.m.b On Trump As Gather Together Officials To Denounce Him


ALISON CAMEROTA AND JOHN BERMAN.>>WELCOME TO OUR VIEWERS IN THE UNITED STATES AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS “NEW DAY.” MONDAY, AUGUST 19th. 6:00 HERE IN NEW YORK. I WAS I GOT AN ANCHOR, IT’S A HENNA TATTOO, SO IT WON’T LAST FOREVER. BUT IT FEEL LIKE FOR THESE TIMES AND FIGURATIVELY, WE SHOULD HAVE AN ANCHOR.>>AND YOU SHOULD BATHE.>>THAT’S MY PLAN.>>A GROWING NUMBER OF ECONOMISTS FEEL WE ARE TURNING TO A RECESSION. BUT THE WHITE HOUSE DOESN’T SEE IT. OR DUNT WANT TO SEE IT? THEY’RE NOT ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN FACTS. THE WHITE HOUSE — >>PRESIDENT TRUMP APPEARS TO BE RETREATS FOR HIS CALLS ON STRICTER BACKGROUND CHECKS. WITH CONGRESS ON RECESS, THERE HAS BEEN NO MOVEMENT ON GUN LEGISLATION FOLLOWING THE DEADLY SHOOTINGS IN EL PASO AND DAYTON AND GILROY. AMERICANS WANT ACTION. OVERWHELMING AMOUNT WANTS BACKGROUND CHECKS. WHAT IS THE LATEST AT THE WHITE HOUSE, JOE?>>Reporter: AS YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP HAS LINKED HIS PRESIDENCY TO THE ECONOMY AND AFTER A WEEK OF UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKETS WITH MANY ECONOMISTS SAYING THESE ARE SIGNS OF A POSSIBLE LOOMING RECESSION, THE PRESIDENT AND HIS TOP LIEUTENANTS WERE SAYING OVER THE WEEKEND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR.>>WE ARE DOING BETTER THAN ANY COUNTRY OR EVEN AREA YIR IN THE WORLD.>>Reporter: PRESIDENT TRUMP INSISTING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS DOING GREAT DESPITE A WEEK OF WHIPLASH ON WALL STREET SPIKING FEARS THAT RECESSION MAY BE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.>>I DON’T THINK WE’RE HAVING A RECESSION. WE’RE DOING TREMENDOUSLY WELL. I GAVE A TREMENDOUS TAX CUT AND THEY’RE LOAD ED UP WITH MONEY.>>Reporter: HIS ADVISERS ECHOING DOWN PLAYING FEARS OF A RECESSION.>>I DON’T SEE A RECESSION. WE HAD BLOCKBUSTER CONSUMER NUMBERS TOWARDS THE END OF LAST WEEK.>>IN THIS CASE, THE FLAT CURVE IS ACTUALLY THE RESULT OF A VERY STRONG TRUMP ECONOMY.>>Reporter: EVEN MAKING BOLD CLAIMS ABOUT HOW TARIFFS ARE AFFECTING AMERICANS.>>THIS PRESIDENT HAS THE BACKS OF FARMERS. THE TARIFFS ARE HURTING CHINA. CHINA IS BEARING THE ENTIRE BURDEN OF THE TARIFFS.>>THAT’S NOT — >>HANG ON.>>– WHAT A LOT OF EXPERTS SAY.>>THAT’S WHAT THIS EXPERT SAYS.>>Reporter: BUT ECONOMISTS AND SOME FARMERS DISAGREE.>>THIS WAS SELF-INFLICTED BY OUR PRESIDENT AND WE DEFINITELY AGREED AT THE BEGINNING. BUT WE — IT DOESN’T APPEAR THAT THERE’S A PLAN “B.”>>Reporter: THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER FOR THE PRESIDENT WHO SAYS THE ECONOMY SHOULD GIVE HIM A SECOND TERM.>>THERE’S BASIC FACTS HERE YOU CAN’T ESCAPE. ONE IS THAT AMERICAN FARMERS YOV TO SIGN UP. THERE ARE A LOT OF BACKGROUND CHECKS APPROVED OVER THE YEARS.>>Reporter: PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO CONFIRMING HIS INTEREST IN PURCHASING GREENLAND FROM DENMARK.>>ESSENTIALLY IT’S A LARGE REAL ESTATE DEAL.>>Reporter: BUT THE DANISH PRIME MINISTER QUASHING ANY FUTURE DEAL AS, QUOTE, ABSURD. THE PRESIDENT ALSO TOOK A SWIPE AT FOX NEWS SAYING THERE’S SOMETHING GOING ON AT FOX AND I’M NOT HAPPY WITH IT. THAT AFTER HE WAS ASKED ABOUT POLLS BY THAT NETWORK SHOWING HIM TRAILING DEMOCRATS IN SEVERAL HEAD-TO-HEAD MATCHUPS. JOHN AND ALISYN, BACK TO YOU.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND THE PRESIDENT’S APPARENT RETREAT ON THAT IN A MOMENT. I THINK THAT’S SIGNIFICANT AND THOSE WORDS THERE. DELIBERATE IT SEEMED TO ME.>>WE’VE ALSO SEEN THAT BEFORE AFTER OTHER HORRIBLE MASS SHOOTINGS. THE PRESIDENT SAYS ONE THING THEN THE POLICY DOESN’T MATCH IT.>>JOINING US NOW ANDREW GILUM, APRIL RYAN, AND ANGELA RYE. LET’S START WITH THE ECONOMY. AS I SAID, THE WHITE HOUSE IS ENTITLED TO OPTIMISM. IF THEY WANT TO LOOK OUT AND SAY WE DON’T THINK A RECESSION IS COMING, THEY’RE ENTITLED TO THAT OPINION. WHAT THEY’RE NOT ENTITLED TO IS THEIR OWN FACTS. SO WHEN PETER NAVARRO AND HE WAS SAYING THE SAME THING WITH YOU. WHEN HE WAS WITH JAKE AND JAKE ASKED HIM ABOUT THE EVIDENCE THAT U.S. FARMERS ARE BEING HURT, THAT PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE BEING HIT BY THE TARIFFS, LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID.>>THE TARIFFS ARE HURTING CHINA. CHINA’S BEARING THE ENTIRE BURDEN OF THE TARIFFS — >>THAT’S NOT — >>HANG ON.>>– WHAT A LOT OF EXPERTS SAY.>>THAT’S WHAT THIS EXPERT SAYS.>>IN OTHER WORDS, I’M KEEPING MY EYES SHUT HERE. BLACK IS WHITE. NIGHT IS DAY. AND WATER IS NOT WET. YOU CAN MAKE THE CASE, BAKARI, THAT IT’S WORTH IT — THAT THE TARIFFS ARE WORTH IT TO REACH A CERTAIN GOAL. WHAT YOU CAN’T ARGUE IS THAT THEY ARE NOT HITTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE.>>WELL, THAT’S TRUE. AND I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST WHEN YOU LOOK AT FARMERS NOT ONLY THROUGHOUT SOUTH CAROLINA WHERE I’M FROM AND THEY’RE SCREAMING FROM PAIN FROM THESE TARIFFS DAY IN AND DAY OUT, YOU HAD A LOT OF DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES IN IOWA GOING THROUGH THE STATE AND WHAT THEY HEARD FROM FARMERS WERE THAT THESE TARIFFS ARE KILLING US. YOU HAVE SOYBEANS THAT ARE JUST BEING STORED FOR WEEKS AND DAYS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO MOVE. SO I THINK WHAT PETER NAVARRO IS DOING IS A DISSERVICE. WHETHER OR NOT YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THE LAST 30 MONTHS OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION VERSUS THE FIRST 30 MONTHS OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THERE WAS A MILLION-JOB DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF JOBS THAT WERE CREATED. OR ON THE OTHER HAND YOU LOOK AT THE INDICATORS THAT ARE SHOWING THAT OUR ECONOMY IS SIMPLY SLOWING DOWN. THE HUGE SELLOFF WE HAD LAST WEEK. THIS TRUMP ECONOMY IS NOT WORKING. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BARACK OBAMA TURNED OVER A DEFICIT THAT WAS ABOUT $600 BILLION TO DONALD TRUMP. IT’S NOW $1.1 TRILLIN BECAUSE HIS TAX SCAM SIMPLY HAS NOT WORKED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING GOING ON RIGHT NOW, THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS GOING TO KIND OF SLOW NOT TO A STOP, BUT SLOW DOWN. AND THAT’S NOT GOOD FOR TRUMP RE-ELECTION IN THE LEAST BIT.>>BY THE WAY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FARMERS, THEY ARE GETTING A CUSHION OF FEDERAL L ASSISTANCE TO THE TUNE OF SOMETHING LIKE $25 BILLION WHICH OF COURSE IS GREAT FOR FARMERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND WE UNDERSTAND WHY IT’S NEEDED, BUT REPUBLICANS USED TO CALL THAT A BAILOUT. YOU KNOW, WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP DID THINGS TO HELP, SAY, THE CAR INDUSTRY OR WHATEVER, IT USED TO BE CALLED A BAILOUT. AND OF COURSE WE NO LONGER TALK ABOUT THE DEFICIT. BUT THAT HAS SPIKED. AND SO WE JUST NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF CLEAR EYED ABOUT WHAT THE TARIFFS — EVEN IF FARMERS SAY IT ISN’T HURTING THEM. IT’S CERTAINLY AFFECTING THE ECONOMY.>>THE MAIN ISSUE I HAD HAVE WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS THE SAME WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS THEY ARE IMMUNE TO THE FACTS UNTIL THE FACTS SUPPORT THE CASE THEY’RE TRYING TO MAKE. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE SAME INTERVIEW WITH JAKE TAPPER, NAVARRO SAID THIS — WHAT WAS IT? ALL OF THE STATS THAT JAKE PULLED, HE HAD REASONS NOT TO BELIEVE IT. HE SAID DO THE MATH HERE. IT’S NO, LET’S ALSO LOOK AT THE DATA. DATA NEVER WORKS FOR THEM. REMEMBER WHEN DONALD TRUMP SAID THE BUREAU OF LABOUR STATISTICS HAD FAKE INFORMATION UNTIL IT WAS BENEFICIAL TO HIM. I THINK THE OTHER CHALLENGE I HAVE IS I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT ECONOMIST HE’S TALKING TO. MOST OF THEM WILL TELL YOU WHETHER YOU’RE TRYING TO RUN FROM THE RECESSION OR LIKE THE TARIFFS ARE NOT IMPACTING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, TO THE TUNE OF 95%, THEY’RE HITTING US 95% O CHINA’S 5%. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE SPEAKING TO BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT EXPERTS. THEY ARE GASLIGHT ARTISTS.>>WELL, IT’S KUDLOW, NAVARRO. THAT’S THE TEAM THAT SAYS THAT EVERYTHING LOOKS ROSY AT THE MOMENT.>>YOU’VE COVERED THIS WHITE HOUSE FOR A LONG TIME. ARE THEY EQUIPPED — BECAUSE THERE’S THIS CONVERSATION OUT THERE. THEY’RE NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE A DOWNTURN YET. DO YOU GET THE SENSE IT’S SOMETHING THAT’S EVEN ENTERED THEIR MIND?>>YOU KNOW, THE GRASSROOTS AMERICAN FEELS SOMETHING’S NOT RIGHT IN THEIR POCKET. THIS ADMINISTRATION COULD SAY THE ECONOMIC INDICATORS DON’T LINE UP. WHEN IT COMES TO THE TARIFFS WITH THE SOYBEAN FARMERS, THE SUBSIDIES HAVE BEEN SLOW TO GET TO THEM. THEY ARE HURTING. WHEN IT COMS TO THE TARIFFS IN CHINA, WITH THE CLOTHING MANUFACTURERS, LEATHER GOODS. IT’S HURTING PEOPLE WHO ARE SELLING LEATHER GOODS AND THE CLOTHERS. AMERICAN DESIGNERS ARE FEELING THE HIT. ELECTION GO GO TO THE MEXICAN TARIFFS. THE DOMESTIC AWE TROE INDUSTRY IS BEING HIT. THEY’RE LAYING OFF. THEY’RE ABSORBING THE IMPACT OF THOSE. WHEN THEY MAKE A PRODUCT IN MEXICO OR HERE AND SEND IT TO MEXICO, THE TARIFFS ARE ADDED AND THAT TRANSLATES TO AN EXTRA COST TO THE CONSUMER. AND THERE’S A — YOU KNOW, THERE’S JUST SO MUCH MORE GOING ON, YOU KNOW. AND A BIG INDICATOR IS THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY. WHEN THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY SLOWS DOWN, WHEN THEY’RE NOT MOVING GOODS, THAT IS A BIG INDICATOR. THOSE ARE THE GRASSROOTS INDICATORS. WHEN THEY GO IN THEIR POCKET AND PULL OUT LINT AND THEY DON’T HAVE MONEY TO SHOW FOR IT, THAT’S SAYING MY POCKET IS DEPRESSED, SUPPRESSED, AND REPRESSED.>>ANDREW, I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE TOPIC OF GREENLAND. LAST WEEK I THINK WE WERE SORT OF MAKING LIGHT ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL. BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS CONSIDERATION, IT SOUNDS LIKE, FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP AT LEAST DESPITE WHAT DENMARK SAYS AND WHAT GREENLAND SAYS ABOUT IT. HERE’S WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID ABOUT IT OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT HIS INTEREST.>>I DON’T KNOW. IT GOT RELEASED SOMEHOW. DENMARK OWNS IT. WE’RE GOOD ALLIES WITH DENMARK. WE PROTECT DENMARK LIKE WE PROTECT LARGE PORTIONS OF THE WORLD. SO THE CONCEPT CAME UP AND I SAID CERTAINLY I’D BE STRATEGICALLY IT’S INTERESTING. ESSENTIALLY IT’S A LARGE REAL ESTATE DEAL. A LOT OF THINGS COULD BE DONE.>>ANDREW, YOUR THOUGHTS?>>FIRST O V ALL, ALL OF US OUGHT TO BE TERRIFIED WHEN WE HEAR DONALD TRUMP TALKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE DEALS. THIS MAN GOES BUST EVERY TIME. EVERY DEAL HE’S ASSOCIATED WITH. AND NOW UNFORTUNATELY ALL OF US ARE TIED TO HIM BECAUSE HE’S SERVING IN THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN ALL THE LAND. I’M JUST GOING TO AGREE WITH THE PRIME MINISTER HERE. THIS IS A LUDICROUS IDEA. WHAT THE PRESIDENT OUGHT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE TERRITORY THAT IS ALREADY UNDER HIS CONTROL. HE LIKES TO BRING UP BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, ALL THE TIME. WHERE IS HIS AID PACKAGE FOR BALTIMORE? WHERE IS HIS JOBS PROGRAM FOR THE FOLKS WHO LIVE THERE, BREATHE THERE, TRY TO RAISE FAMILIES THERE? MAYBE WE COULD GO A STEP FURTHER AND TALK ABOUT PUERTO RICO. WHERE WAS THE PRESIDENT WHEN WE NEEDED HIM IN PUERTO RICO TO HELP THAT COMMUNITY GET BACK ON ITS FEET INSTEAD OF TOSSING OUT TOILET PAPER? HE TREATED IT LIKE SOME KIND OF A CHARADE OF SOME SORT. I DON’T THINK ANY ONE OF US ON THIS PANEL ARE CHAMPIONING OR CHEERING FOR THE ECONOMY OF THE UNITED STATES TO GO DOWN. IT’S EVERYDAY WORKING PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED. OUR ISSUE AND I’LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF HERE — MY ISSUE IS THIS PRESIDENT HAS TAKEN CREDIT FROM DAY ONE FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK DONE BY PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA AND NOW THAT HIS ECONOMIC POLICIES ARE BEGINNING TO SHOW IMPACT, HE DOESN’T LIKE IT. HE’S THE ONE THAT STARTED THIS TARIFF WAR. HE’S THE ONE THAT GAVE AWAY THE TOPPLE TAX BREAK TO THE TOP 1% OF AMERICANS, THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT TURNING THAT MONEY BACK OVER. SO ANY GAIN WE WOULD HAVE SEEN FROM THE TAX BREAKS HAVE ALL DIMINISHED AND NOW THE CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST. AND THIS PRESIDENT IS PLAYING THE BLAME GAME. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER.>>BAKARI, I WANT TO END ON THIS NOTE. WE’RE LEARNING A LOT MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WENT TO THAT EVENT. THE UNION WORKERS WHO WENT TO THE EVENT IN PENNSYLVANIA LAST WEEK. IT TURNS OUT, IF THEY DIDN’T GO THEIR OVERTIME PAYMENT WAS GOING TO BE TIED TO THEIR ATTENDANCE AT THIS PRESIDENTIAL EVENT. A MEMO SAYING THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. HOWEVER, THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN ATTENDANCE WILL NOT RECEIVE OVERTIME PAY ON FRIDAY. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO SEE THIS WITH PEOPLE BEING FORCED TO GO?>>FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THERE ARE A LARGE SWATH OF AMERICANS WHO ARE SUPPORTERS OF DONALD TRUMP. HE DOESN’T HAVE ANY PROBLEM FILLING RALLIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THAT IS UTTERLY DEPRESSING THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK EXTREMELY HARD JUST TO MAKE ENDS MEET WERE COMPELLED TO GO TO THIS RALLY. AND IF NOT SUFFER HURT IN THEIR POCKETS. WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, AMERICAN WORKSERS HAVE HURTING AND THE PRESIDENT IS USING THEM AS A POLITICAL PROP, A PLOY. TARIFF IS NOTHING MORE THAN A TAX. THIS ISN’T SOME WAR WE’RE IN WITH CHINA. THIS A TAX AND BURDEN ON AMERICAN CITIZENS. AND DRAGGING THEM OUT TO A>>>JUST TWO WEEKS AFTER THE DEADLY MASS SHOOTINGS IN EL PASO, DAYTON, AND GILROY, PRESIDENT TRUMP APPEARS TO BE BACK TRACKING ON EXPANDED BACKGROUND CHECKS. LISTEN TO THIS.>>PEOPLE DON’T REALIZE, WE HAVE VERY STRONG BACKGROUND CHECKS RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE A LOT OF BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED O EFR THE YEARS.>>SO YOU’RE NOT WILLING TO PASS EXPANDED BACKGROUND CHECKS?>>I’M NOT SAYING ANYTHING. PEOPLE WILL COME TO ME WITH IDEAS AND I’LL LOOK AT IT VERY STRONGLY. REMEMBER, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>ANGELA, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A PATTERN WE HAVE SEEN REPEATED OVER AND OVER. THERE WILL BE A HORRIFIC MASS SHOOTING OR A SCHOOL SHOOTING. THERE’S BEEN PARK LAND, LAS VEGAS, WHAT HAPPENED TWO WEEKS AGO. THE PRESIDENT’S GUT REACTION VIA TWITTER WILL BE, WE NEED TO RAISE THE AGE TO BUY GUNS. WE NEED TO BAN BUMP STOCKS, WE NEED TO DO EXPANDED BACKGROUND CHECKS. AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENS OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND HE CHANGES HIS TUNE. AND SO EVERYBODY WHO THOUGHT, WELL, THIS TIME WILL BE THE TIPPING POINT. THIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE HE SEEMS TO WANT EXPANDED BACKGROUND CHECKS, NOW HE SOUNDS AS THOUGH HE’S NOT A FULL SUPPORTER.>>WELL, AND JUST LIKE NORMAL, DONALD TRUMP IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY WANT BACKGROUND CHECKS. IT IS A VERY SMALL STEP — A VERY SMALL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO YOU WOULD THINK THAT AT THIS POINT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE HAS A CLOSE CAN EX-TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, GIVEN THE FACT THERE HAVE BEEN TOO MANY PEOPLE KILLED REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE, THEIR GENDER, THEIR AGE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT HE WOULD WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND TAKE THIS IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. HE COULD HAVE A WIN UNDER HIS BELT FOR FINALLY DOING THE RIGHT THING. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE IS TURNING A BLIND EYE TO DEATH, TO BLOOD SHED ON HIS WATCH. AND I CAN’T THINK OF ANYTHING AS IRRESPONSIBLE AS HE IS, I CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING THAT IS MORE IRRESPONSIBLE THAN THIS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS PRESIDENT — WHEN HE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, ALISYN, WE KNOW THAT HE DOES NOT WAIT FOR CONGRESS. HE DOES NOT WAIT FOR CONGRESS. AND SO HE DOES NOT NEED TO — HE DOESN’T NEED TO WAIT FOR THEM TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THE RIGHT THING. HE DOESN’T NEED TO DO ANY OF THAT. HE JUST NEEDS TO TAKE ANOTHER STEP, A SMALL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.>>I JUST WANTED TO JUST — >>GO AHEAD.>>I’M SORRY. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF US AND WE CAN’T SEE EACH OTHER. BUT THE TRUTH IS ABOUT THIS PRESIDENT IS HE’S ACTUALLY NOT A PERSON OF HIS WORD. HE SAYS ONE THING ONE DAY AND THEN DOES ANOTHER. I MEAN, EVEN WHEN HE’S PRETENDING TO BE BOLD IN HIS ACTIONS, RIGHT? FIRST HE THREATENS MEXICO AND GOES RIGHT UP TO THE LINE AND THEN SAYS, OH, WE’RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. THEN HE THREATENS CHINA WITH THESE TARIFFS. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT’S, OH, WE’RE GOING TO DELAY THEM SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T FEEL THEM OVER THE WEIGHT OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON. THEN HE GOT OUT THERE ON GUNS AND SAID AFTER PARKLAND, TO BE QUITE FRANK, IN MY HOME STATE OF FLORIDA, WE NEED BACKGROUND CHECKS. WE NEED RED FLAG LAWS. ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW HE’S BACKED AWAY. DONALD TRUMP IS WEAK. THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES ON. AND IT’S REALLY DEVASTATING TO SEE ON THIS ISSUE WHERE THERE’S SUM SO MUCH HERE TO SEE HIM FECKLESS.>>GO AHEAD, BAKARI.>>LET ME SAY THIS REAL QUICK. I ACTUALLY THINK ALL MY COLLEAGUES ARE WRONG HERE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. BECAUSE I DON’T FEEL LIKE THIS FALLS IN THE LAP OF DONALD TRUMP. AND THAT’S GOING TO SOUND A LITTLE STRANGE TO SAY. I THINK HE’S EMBLEMATIC OF A LARGER PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. BUT BACK DURING SANDY HOOK WHEN THERE WERE 20-PLUS WHITE KIDS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN A SCHOOL SHOOTING, THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I’M UNDER NO ILLUSION THAT WE’RE GOING TO HAVE ANY GUN CONTROL OR ANY LAWS CHANGED THAT CAN MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT NEED TO HAVE WEAPONS TO PURCHASE THEM. THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM LONG BEFORE DONALD TRUMP. I DON’T THINK THIS RESTS AT HIS FEET. HE’S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES NOW, BUT THAT LACK OF COURAGE THAT ANDREW’S TALKING ABOUT, THAT FECKLESSNESS WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HAS BEEN PART OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BECAUSE THEY’VE BEEN PURCHASED BY THE NRA FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. IF THEY DIDN’T DO ANYTHING AFTER SANDY HOOK, I’M OF NO BELIEF THEY’RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING NOW. I’M ABOUT FIVE MILES AWAY FROM THE CHURCH HERE IN CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA. AND THE LINDSEY GRAHAM REPRESENTS THIS AREA. HE REPRESENTS THIS STATE. WE STILL HAVE THE CHARLESTON LOOPHOLE WHEREBY DYLANN ROOF WAS ABLE TO WALK IN AND BECAUSE HIS BACKGROUND CHECK WASN’T DONE IN TIME, HE WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT AND KILL NINE PEOPLE AT A BIBLE STUDY APP AND IF THE CHAIR OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE REPRESENTS THIS AREA AND STILL WILL NOT DO ANYTHING, I’M OF NO BELIEF ANY OF THEM WILL. WHILE WE WANT TO BEAT UP ON DONALD TRUMP A LOT, LET ME JUST SAY HIS COWARDICE IS NOT HIS IE LOAN.>>BUT ME ME SAY — >>APRIL?>>LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT INTO WHAT’S GOING ON. POLLS ARE SHOWING RIGHT NOW THAT NATIONALLY THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING DONE. AND IT TAKES PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE ARE STILL FORMING A MORE PERFECT UNION NO MATTER HOW GREAT THIS PRESIDENT SAYS THIS COUNTRY IS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT NOW THE PRESIDENT IS IN THE CATCH 22. SOURCES VERY CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT IN THIS SITUATION ARE SAYING HE’S HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE NRA SAYING WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HOLD OFF ON THIS ONE. YOU’VE GOT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC CRYING OUT. JUST LIKE YOU SAID ABOUT DYLANN ROOF, WE’LL STILL DEALING WITH THAT ISSUE WITH MOTHER EMMANUEL. WE’RE STILL REELING FROM THE BUMP STOCK ISSUE IN VEGAS. WE’RE STILL REELING FROM SANDY HOOK. WE’RE STILL REELING FROM EL PASO. WE’RE STILL REELING FROM DAYTON. WE’RE STILL REELING FROM OTHER PLACES. BUT AT ISSUE IS PEOPLE HAVE TO STAND UP. WE HAVE SEEN JOHN LEGEND CRY WITH A VICTIM’S SON, A 7-YEAR-OLD SON. WE’VE SEEN HIM SING. WE’VE SEEN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC COME OUT. IT TAKES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO CHANGE THIS PRESIDENT’S MIND. AND AS LONG AS THE PRESSURE KEEPS COMING, HR-8 COULD BE A POSSIBILITY. IT’S PASSED IN THE HOUSE. BUT WHERE’S THE SENATE? WHERE ARE THE SENATE REPUBLICANS?>>BUT I’M — >>I WANT — I JUST HAVE TO SAY THIS. WAIT. I NEED TO REFUTE YOUR LAST POINT.>>GO AHEAD.>>THE ISSUE S NOT THAT WE’RE SAYING THAT THIS COUNTRY HASN’T GONE FAR ENOUGH, HASN’T BEEN TRYING TO HOLD POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE, HASN’T BEEN TRYING TO DISMANTLE CLEARLY THE NRA FOR ALL OF THEIR WRONGS AND THEIR ABUSES. THE ISSUE IS THIS PRESIDENT’S RHETORIC IS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM. WE SAW BARACK OBAMA CRY ON CAMERA AND SAY, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? HE WAS TRYING TO HELP CONGRESS MOVE. IT IS DONALD TRUMP WHO WILL SAY ONE THING AND THEN DO ANOTHER, WHO WILL SAY ONE THING AND THEN COMMIT TO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. OF COURSE WE UNDERSTAND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN IRRESPONSIBLE. DEMOCRATS HAVEN’T BEEN RESPONSIBLE NUMBER EITHER. THIS PRESIDENT’S RHETORIC IS DANGEROUS BECAUSE IT’S IRRESPONSIBLE AND HE’S NOT TAKE ING CREDIT FOR ANY OF IT.>>I DON’T DISAGREE WITH ANY OF IT. HIS RHETORIC IS IRRESPONSIBLE. HOWEVER, WHAT I’M SAYING IS THIS ENTIRE UNITED STATES CONGRESS BUT FOR DECADES, DEMOCRATS GOT DESTROYS IN THOSE UNITED STATES HOUSE RACES AFTER THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND THEY BLAMED IT ON THAT. DEMOCRATS LOST A BACKBONE TO FIGHT FOR GUN CONTROL. AND ALL I’M SAYING IS WE’RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE — AND I UNDERSTAND APRIL’S POINT ABOUT WE THE PEOPLE HAVING TO DO THIS. BUT THE RETORT IS HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE? SO WE HAVE A LOT OF BLOOD SHED AT THIS POINT WHERE EVERY SINGLE WEEK WE’RE NUMB TO THE FACT THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE DYING. AND I PERSONALLY AM EXHAUSTED. AND I SIMPLY DON’T BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING WILL CHANGE. PROVE ME WRONG. BUT I JUST DON’T BELIEVE IT WILL.>>I ALSO THINK THAT THE POINT IS, BAKARI PROBABLY TO YOUR POINT, IS THAT THE PRESIDENT HOLDS A LOT OF SWAY WITH SENATORS LINDSEY GRAHAM AND MITCH McCONNELL. THE PRESIDENT HAS POWER OVER THEM. IF HE MADE HIS WISHES KNOWN, THEY WOULD PROBABLY RESPOND.>>THAT’S WHY THIS IS A MARKER THIS MORNING. THE FACT HE CAME OUT AND SAID THIS THIS WEEKEND IS A BIG DEAL. HE HAPPENED TO UTTER IT UNDER HIS BREATH. BUT HAD HE COME OUT FIRMLY ON THE TARMAC AND SAID I’M GOING TO PUSH FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS, THATst A MUCH DIFFERENT DEAL.>>YO UL HAVE A LOT MORE OPPORTUNIT>>>IN THIS CASE THE FLAT CURVE IS ACTUALLY THE RESULT OF A VERY STRONG TRUMP ECONOMY. WHAT WE SEEN NOW IS FOREIGN CAPITAL COMING TO THE BEST GAME IN THE GLOBE WHICH IS THE TRUMP ECONOMY. IT’S GOING INTO OUR STOCK MARKET.>>I SURE DON’T SEE A RECESSION. WE HAD SOME BLOCKBUSTER RETAIL SALES, CONSUMER NUMBERS TOWARDS THE BACK END OF LAST WEEK. REALLY BLOCKBUSTER NUMBERS.>>PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ECONOMIC TEAM PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE INDICATORS THAT SHOW A POTENTIAL RECESSION MAY BE ON THE HORIZON. JOINING ME NOW IS KATHRYN RANPEL. AND IF THE THE ECONOMIC TEAM WANTS TO BE GLASS HALF FULL ON THE ECONOMY, GO AHEAD. WHAT I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE IS WHEN THEY DENY THE DATA. WHEN THEY DENY THE FACTS. FIRST OF ALL, PETER NAVARRO IS LYING WHEN HE SAYS THE YIELD CURVE IS NOT INVERTED. IT IS. THE SECOND THING, WILLEN TO WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THE PRESIDENT’S TRADE WAR IS HAVING ON FARMERS AND U.S. MANUFACTURERS. HE TALKED TO JAKE ABOUT THIS JUST YESTERDAY.>>THE TARIFFS ARE HURTING CHINA. CHINA IS BEARING THE ENTIRE BURDEN OF THE TARIFFS IN TERMS OF — >>THAT’S NOT WHAT A LOT OF EXPERTS SAY.>>THAT’S WHAT THIS EXPERT SAYS.>>THIS EXPERT IS WRONG.>>YES. WE NOW HAVE FOUR STUDIES FROM REPUTABLE ECONOMISTS. PEOPLE AT HARVARD, PRINCETON, YALE, COLUMBIA, UCLA, THE NEW YORK FED, ET CETERA WHO ALL SHOW THAT EITHER 100% OR ALMOST SAY THE BURDEN IS BEING PASSED ALONG TO AMERICANS. WHAT’S INTERESTING IS WHEN OBAMA WAS PTD AND THE ECONOMIC NUMBERS WERE GOOD, TRUMP SAID THEY WERE FAKE. WHEN TRUMP BECAME THE PRESIDENT AND INHERITED VIRTUALLY THE SAME ECONOMIC NUMBERS, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WERE REAL. NOW THEY’RE TURNING SOUTH, THEY’RE FAKE AGAIN. I REMEMBER WHEN SEAN SPICER — >>I THINK WE HAVE THAT SOUND. YOU CAN SEE IT IN HIS FACE HE KNOWS.>>I KNOW WHAT’S COMING.>>I TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT PRIOR TO THIS. HE SAID TO QUOTE HIM CLEARLY. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN PHONY IN THE PAST, BUT IT’S VERY REAL NOW.>>SO JOB NUMBERS WERE — YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC NUMBERS WERE PHONY IN THE PAST. NOW THEY’RE REAL. NOW THEY’RE GOING BACK TO BEING PHONY. HE KNOWS IT’S B.S.>>OF COURSE HE DOES. IF TRUMP THINKS THERE’S A CONSPIRACY HAPPENING TO FAKE THESE NUMBERS OR TO, YOU KNOW, FAKE FORECASTS WHICH A NUMBER OF REPORTERS INCLUDING MAGGIE HABERMAN AND COLLEAGUES OF MINE AT “THE WASHINGTON POST” HAVE REPORTED, YOU KNOW, THE REAL QUESTION IS DOES HE REALLY THINK THAT NINE OTHER COUNTRY STATISTICIANS ARE IN ON IT TOO. AND THAT’S ONE OF THE RISKS HERE. IT’S NOT JUST THE TRADE WARS. IT’S ALL OF THESE GLOBAL RISKS. AND THE FACT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS SORT OF DENYING THE REALITY OF WHAT’S HAPPENING IS VERY TROUBLING. THE QUESTION IS, ARE THEY TRYING TO SHIELD THE PUBLIC FROM THESE CONCERNS ABOUT RECESSION? OR ARE THEY TRYING TO SHIELD THEIR BOSS? BECAUSE THERE IS REALLY A CONCERN THAT THEY — IF THE NUMBERS TURN REALLY BAD, IF THINGS GO REALLY BAD, THEY WON’T TELL HIM. RIGHT? AND THAT’S KQUITE TROUBLING.>>WELL, THE ACTIONS. THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS FROM INSIDE THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE ECONOMY OVER THE LAST TEN DAYS INDICATES THEY THINK THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM AHEAD. THEY BACKED OFF ON SOME OF THE TARIFFS ON CHINA. AND LISTEN, THE PRESIDENT — LET’S PLAY THIS OUT THERE. TRUMPS AND TARIFFS. HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE AMERICAN CONSUMER FOR CHRISTMAS. LISTEN.>>JUST IN CASE THEY MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT ON PEOPLE, WHAT WE’VE DONE IS WE DELAYED IT FOR THE CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SEASON.>>HE KNOWS THEY HAVE AN IMPACT.>>RIGHT. OF COURSE HE DOES. AND PETER NAVARRO IN THAT INTERVIEW WITH JAKE SUGGESTED IT WAS NEWS TO HIM THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY IMPACT TO AMERICAN CONSUMERS. AGAIN, IT’S HARD TO KNOW. DOES HE ACTUALLY — IS HE ACTUALLY NOT AWARE OF ALL OF THIS RESEARCH THAT IS CONTRADICTORY TO HIS DOGMATIC VIEWS OF THE VALUE OF THESE TARIFFS. OR IS HE AWARE OF IT OR JUST DISMISSING IT? IN IT’S LOWEST POINT OF THE YEAR ACCORDING TO THAT INDEX. VERY QUICKLY WHY IS THAT IG SIGNIFICANT?>>BECAUSE UP UNTIL NOW WHILE MANUFACTURER MAY BE FACING TROUBLE, THE CONSUMER IS STILL BULLISH AND STRONG AND WILL KEEP US FROM FALLING INTO TROUBLE. LOOK. THIS IS ONE DATA POINT SO I DON’T WANT TO PUT TOO MUCH EMPHASIS ON IT. BUT BECAUSE THIS CONSUMER SENTIMENT NUMBER WAS DISAPPOINTING,T>>>WE WANT TO WELCOME OUR VIEWERS IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS “NEW DAY” AND WE BEGIN WITH MIXED MESSAGES ON THE ECONOMY. MARKETS AROUND THE WORLD ARE REBOUNDING AS THE WHITE HOUSE DOWN PLAYS ANY TROUBLING SIGNS. A NEW SURVEY OUT THIS MORNING SHOWS 34% OF ECONOMISTS PREDICT A RECESSION BY 2021. THAT IS UP NINE POINTS FROM FEBRUARY. AMERICAN FARMERS TELL US THAT THEY ARE FEELING THE BRUNT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S TRADE WAR AS HIS TRADE ADVISER CLAIMS TARIFFS ARE NOT HURTING ANYONE IN THE UNITED STATES DESPITE RESEARCH AND THOSE FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS FROM FARMERS.>>ALSO THIS MORNING, WE HAVE IMPORTANT NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE BATTLE AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE IN THIS COUNTRY. THIS MORNING THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO BE BACK PEDDLING ON THE MEANINGFUL BACKGROUND CHECKS. BUT NOW HE SAYS SOMETHING VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. WE WILL PLAY YOU WHAT HE SAID AND WHY IT’S A BIG SHIFT FROM WHERE HE WAS JUST A FEW DAYS AGO.>>OKAY. AND COULD WE SEE SOMEONE NEW WITHIN THE GOP SOMEHOW FORCE PRESIDENT TRUMP OFF THE TICKET IN 2020 OR MIGHT HE LEAVE OF HIS OWN ACCORD AT LEAST ONE BIG NAME REPUBLICAN SAYS SOME INSIDE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAVE HAD ENOUGH.>>THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE AND IN THE CABINET. I WOULD ASK THE LEFT TO LET’S CREATE AN OFFRAMP FOR THOSE PEOPLE. BECAUSE WHEN YOU’RE TRYING TO DEPROGRAM PEOPLE FROM A CULT, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO IS ALLOW THEM TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.>>OKAY. WE BEGIN THIS HOUR WITH THAT SAME REPUBLICAN ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, FORMER WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND AUTHOR OF “TRUMP: THE BLUE COLLAR PRESIDENT.” ANTHONY, HAPPY MONDAY.>>WELCOME BACK, ALISYN. HOW ARE YOU?>>I’M DOING WELL. YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY FALLEN OFF THE TRUMP TRAIN WITH A LOUD THUD. WHAT YOU SAID OVER THE WEEKEND IS THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER REPUBLICANS WHO YOU’VE SPOKEN TO INCLUDING SOME VOCAL SUPPORTERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO WANT TO FOLLOW SUIT OR WHO BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU’RE DOING. BUT THEY NEED AN OFFRAMP. CAN YOU JUST TELL US WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE?>>SO IT’S — SO IT’S A LITTLE BIT LIKE A CYCLE. I MEAN, IF YOU CAN GET THE CYCLE STARTED, SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE FEAR BASED DUE TO THE PRESIDENT’S BULLYING OR THE NONSENSE ON HIS TWITTER FEED OR HOW HE HANDLES HIMSELF PERSONALLY, THEY’RE INTIMIDATED BY HIM. SO IF WE COULD JUST GET THE THING STARTED, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON SAID, WELL, IF HE GOES DOWN IN THE POLLS OR IS POLITICALLY WOUNDED A LITTLE BIT, I’LL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE COMING OUT. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS IF YOU COME OUT AND SAY THE TRUTH, THAT WILL START THE PROCESS. AND SO I DON’T — IT’S VERY TOUGH FOR MOST PEOPLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT’S A PROCESS FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE IT’S SORT OF, LIKE, A LOYALTY TRAP. YOU’RE A REPUBLICAN. YOU WANT TO SERVE THE PRESIDENT. YOU LOVE THE COUNTRY. YOU KNOW THE PRESIDENT’S UNSTABLE, SO YOU’RE TELLING REPORTERS I’M HERE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WORSE IF I WASN’T HERE. IT’S SORT OF THAT SORT OF RHETORIC GOING ON INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE, INSIDE THE CABINET. AND UP ON CAPITOL HILL. THEY’RE SAYING WELL, I DON’T WANT TO NECESSARILY GET PRIMARIED FURTHER TO THE RIGHT. WHAT WE SAW OVER THE WEEK IS THE BALLOON IS COMING OUT OF THE PRESIDENT’S BOMBAST. THE BALLOON IS COMING OUT OF HIS RHETORIC. THERE IS AN ENTIRE SONG NOW OF — >>WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHERE DO YOU SEE THE BALLOON DEFLATING?>>OKAY. SO NUMBER ONE, THE CROWD SIZE, YOU HAD REPORTERS THERE TAKING PICTURES OF WHERE THE PEOPLE WERE IN THE CROWD. NUMBER TWO, JUST LISTEN TO HIM TALK OR LOOK AT THE TRANSCRIPT THAT YOUR REPORTER KAITLAN COLLINS JUST PUT OUT ABOUT THE WAY HE’S RAMBLING AND DISCONNECTING SENTENCES AND HE’S ACTING IN A WAY THAT IS IRRATIONAL AND UNSTABLE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHERE I SEE THAT? LOOK AT THE NBC/”WALL STREET JOURNAL” REPORT WHERE THIS WAS EVEN BEFORE LAST WEEK HE’S IN THE 40% CATEGORY ON APPROVAL RATING. AND HE’S 12 POINTS BEHIND ANY DEMOCRAT. I MEAN, THAT’S ANY DEMOCRAT. AND SO THE REPUBLICANS REALLY HAVE TO WAKE UP TO THIS. SOME OF THEM SAID TO ME OVER THE WEEKEND, WELL, WHAT ARE MY ALTERNATIVES. WE CAN’T HAVE ELIZABETH WARREN, THEY’LL CUT THE STOCK MARKET IN HALF, CAPITAL INVESTMENT WILL COMPLETELY DRY UP. WELL, NO, YOU CAN HAVE ELIZABETH WARREN IF YOU REMOVE DONALD TRUMP. IF YOU GET A VIABLE CANDIDATE — THIS IS WHAT I’VE SAID TO PEOPLE THINKING OF RUNNING IN 2024. THE TIME IS NOW. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IN 2024, THAT YOU STOOD BY WITH NO COURAGE TO ACT? YOU KNOW THAT THE SITUATION IS UNSTABLE. YOU KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT IS OFF HIS ROCKER. WHAP ARE YOU GOING TO SAY IN 2024? WEL WELL, I KNEW THAT BUT I DIDN’T WANT TO HURT MY POLITICAL PROSPECTS IN THE FUTURE SO I KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT. YOU HAVE TO OPERATE IN AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THIS WITHOUT FEAR, ALISYN. GO AHEAD. YOU WANT TO ASK A SKEPTICAL QUESTION.>>BUT LET’S TALK ABOUT 2020. BECAUSE YOU’VE MADE THE PREDICTION THAT YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL DROP OUT OF THE ERASE BY MARCH. BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE CRAZY TALK. HE DOESN’T — HE SEEMS EXCITED ABOUT 2020. HE DOESN’T SEEM LIKE HE’S GOING ANYWHERE. WHAT ARE YOU BASING THAT ON?>>IT’S NOT CRAZY TALK. IT’S THE TALK OF AN ENTREPRENEUR THAT CAN SEE THE FUTURE AND WITH A LITTLE HELP CAN BEND US TOWARDS THAT FUTURE. IT’S REALLY NOT CRAZY TALK. IF YOU GO INTO THE LOW 30s ON YOUR APPROVAL RATING AND YOU’RE 20 POINTS BEHIND THE DEMOCRAT, AND IF YOU THINK THAT’S NOT POSSIBLE, I’VE BEEN OPERATING IN THE CAPITAL MARKETS FOR 31 YEARS. WHAT HE’S DONE ON THE TRADE SITUATION HAS TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY DESTABILIZED THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. AND FORGET ABOUT THE FARMERS FOR A SECOND. I’M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THEM, BUT IT’S HURTING THEM, BUT IT’S HURTING THE ENTIRE CAPITAL MARKET SYSTEM. AND SO THE FORECAST FOR A RECESSION NOW BEFORE THE ELECTION IS ABOUT 60%. WHEN YOU INVERT THE YIELD CURVE LIKE WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK, THAT’S A DIRECT RESULT ON THE UNCERTAINTY. HE’S DESEMIABLING, BECOMING MORE UNSTABLE AND ERRATIC. THE ECONOMY IS ROLLING OVER. AND THIS IS NOT A GUY WHO LIKES LOSING. HE SHOWS UP AT THE POLLS DOWN 20-PLUS PERCENT IN MARCH. I THINK HE PULLS THE PLUG. BE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO OFFER REPUBLICANS A VIABLE CANDIDATE. AND YOU HAVE TO OFFER THEM AN OFFRAMP. IT’S TOUGH. YOU’RE SITTING THERE. YOU WANT TO BE LOYAL. I WAS ON YOUR SHOW A FEW WEEKS AGO. YOU ASKED WOULD I BREAK FROM THE PRESIDENT IF HE CONTINUE D THE WITH SOME OF THE RHETORIC THAT MANY BELIEVE RACIALLY DIVIDED. I’M NOT CALLING THE PRESIDENT RACIST. YES, I WOULD BREAK. BECAUSE THIS IS — YOU HAVE TO BREAK FOR YOUR CHILDREN. I HAVE FIVE CHILDREN. YOU CAN’T HAVE THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF THE UNITED STATES DISINTEGRATE OVER ONE MAN.>>LISTEN, ANTHONY — LISTEN. IT’S VERY INTERESTING TO HEAR YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE SUCH A SUPPORTER AND YOU WORKED IN THE WHITE HOUSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE HAVE THOUGHT THIS WAY FOR A LONG TIME. THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS TEARING AT THE FABRIC OF THE COUNTRY. BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS, ANTHONY. WHO IS THAT VIABLE ALTERNATIVE? WHO IS THE REPUBLICAN YOU THINK COULD GARNER THE SUPPORT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS?>>THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU REALLY HAVE UNTIL NOVEMBER BUT YOU CAN ALSO SKIP OVER THE STATES OF IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND YOU COULD WORK ON THE BIGGER STATES. AND YOU COULD START WINNING DELEGATES FROM SOME OF THE BIGGER STATES THAT ARE SOUR ON THE PRESIDENT.>>YEAH. BUT LOOK WHO? GIVE ME SOME NAMES. BECAUSE I’M JUST — I JUST — >>WELL, I DON’T THINK IT’S FAIR — >>WHAT ABOUT JOE WALSH? FORMER CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH. HE WAS ON OUR AIR LAST WEEKEND AND HE LIKE YOU IS QUITE VOCAL NOW SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT. SO WHAT ABOUT HIM? WHAT ABOUT MARK SANFORD SPEAKING OUT? WHAT ABOUT BILL WELD WHO IS RUNNING? ANY ALTERNATIVES?>>I’M IN THE PROCESS. I’M A VERY ORGANIZED GUY AND KNOW HOW TO DELEGATE. I’M IN A PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO. THIS IS NOT A NEVER TRUMP SITUATION. THIS IS NOT JUST A SCREECHING RHETORIC. THIS IS, OKAY, THE GUY’S UNSTABLE. EVERYONE INSIDE KNOWS IT. EVERYONE OUTSIDE KNOWS IT. LET’S SEE IF WE CAN FIND A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE. MOREOVER, I’VE GOT TO GET THESE OFFICIALS IN UNITY TO SPEAK UP ABOUT IT. THEY KNOW IT’S A CRISIS. IT GOES BACK TO THINGS LIKE THE COURT MARSHAL. IF YOU READ THAT BOOK. EVERYONE WAS NERVOUS ON THE BOAT BUT IT WAS A FITNESS TO SERVE QUESTION AND IT BECAME YOUR PATRIOTIC DUTY TO SPEAK OUT. SO THIS IS NOT A NEVER TRUMP SORT OF THING. THIS IS AN ORGANIZED PROCESS. WELL, AGAIN, IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR FOR ME TO BRING UP THEIR NAMES RIGHT NOW. BUT I WILL PREDICT THAT IN THE MIDDLE TO LATE FALL, THERE WILL BE A TROVE OF PEOPLE THAT WILL COME TOGETHER IN UNITY AND SAY, OKAY, LOOK. THIS IS WHAT’S GOING ON. THIS IS HOW THE PERSON’S ACTING. THIS IS WHY THERE’S NOBODY INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE HE’S TAKING ANY ADVICE FROM. AND SO THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT TO DO. IF YOU WANT FIVE MORE YEARS OF SOMEBODY OPERATING AT THE TOP OF THE GOVERNMENT ALL ALONE, THAT’S UP TO THE UNITED STATES AND THE VOTERS TO DECIDE THAT. BUT AT LEAST PEOPLE IN THE KNOW HAVE TO EXPRESS THAT TO GIVE THE VOTERS THAT INFORMATION.>>SO ANTHONY, WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU’RE COMPILING A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE MINDED, ARE YOU CONSIDERING A RUN?>>NO. I TOLD JOHN BERMAN, I AM NOT CONSIDERING. I TOLD HIM LAST WEEK, I’M RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION IN MY MARRIAGE. IT’S A ONE-DAY TERM. AND I THOUGHT THERE WERE NO TERM LIMITS UNTIL JOHN EXPOSED ME. NOW MY WIFE IS TELLING ME THERE ARE TERM LIMITS.>>I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU HAVEN’T EXTENDED THAT TO TWO DAYS. YOU’VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS A LONG TIME.>>THANK GOD SHE LOVES ME AGAIN, BUT THE TRUTH IS MY FAMILY IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO ME. I’M A BUSINESS PERSON. I WAS TRYING TO HELP THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN HIS CAMPAIGN AND THEN WHEN HE ASKED ME TO COME IN — I’LL BE WRITING A VERY DETAILED ACCOUNT OF MY ODYSSEY OF MOVING FROM A TRUMP SUPPORTER TO WHERE I AM NOW WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IT’S ALMOST LIKE YOU’RE ON A BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND YOU’RE LOOKING AT A CEO THAT’S GONE MAD. AND YOU’RE SITTING THERE SAYING, GEE, SHOULD WE EXPOSE THIS? LIKE I SAID LAST WEEK. SHOULD WE COVER THIS UP? OR DO WE HAVE TO CLEAN THIS UP? AND RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO CLEAN CLINGS UP.>>OKAY.>>SO WE’RE GOING TO PUT A BOARD TOGETHER. BUT NO, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENCY.>>OKAY. WE’LL — >>I SORT OF LOVE MY LIFE AND JOB AND MY WIFE AND FAMILY.>>GOT THAT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT OP-ED.>>BUT I LOVE MY COUNTRY, ALISYN. LET ME JUST SAY THIS. I LOVE MY COUNTRY. AND IT’S COUNTRY OVER PARTY. DON’T BE A PARTISAN. BE A PATRIOT. TELL THE TRUTH. PLEASE, GUYS. YOU KNOW — AND YOU’RE TELLING REPORTERS OFF THE RECORD. TELL THE TRUTH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND YOU’LL FEEL RELIEVED AND YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE TELLS YOU TO TELL THE TRUTH WILL FEEL RELIEVED.>>WELL, AS YOU KNOW, HOGAN GIDLY SAYS YOU’RE JUST DOING THIS NOW FOR PROFIT. ARE YOU MAKING A PROFIT NOW THAT YOU HAVE COME OUT SO VOCALLY?>>I MEAN, THIS IS — OKAY. ALISYN, THIS COULDN’T BE MORE AGGRAVATING. OKAY? I ADMIRE HOGAN BECAUSE HE’S DOING A VERY, VERY TOUGH JOB. BUT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW I’M PROFITING FROM THIS. MOREOVER AS I POINTED OUT YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO RELEASE ALL MY FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES. I DON’T NEED TO PROFIT FROM THIS. IF ANYTHING, IT HURTS BECAUSE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THAT ARE STILL TIGHT WE THE PRESIDENT ARE GOING TO DISAVOW ME AND THE DEMOCRATS LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED ARE LIKE, WELL, WHERE WERE YOU THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. SO I’VE PUT MYSELF IN NO MAN’S LAND. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND. WHY WOULD I DO THAT? PUT MYSELF IN NO MAN’S LAND? BECAUSE OF THE COUNTRY. BECAUSE OF MY CHILDREN. BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON INSIDE IS HORRIFIC. REMEMBER THE HIS OR ORROR MOVIE WE WERE KIDS? EVERYONE IS HIDING. NO ONE WANTS TO DEAL WITH THE MONSTER. THEN THE MONSTER IS REEKING HAVOC IN THE MOVIE AND SO THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE ON THE MONSTER. WE’RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THAT SITUATION. I DON’T WANT TO BE DOING THIS. HOGAN IS WRONG ABOUT THAT.>>VERY QUICKLY, WE ONLY HAVE A FEW SECONDS LEFT, BUT AREN’T YOU THE CAUTIONARY TALE? IF YOU’RE SAYING YOU’VE LOST FRIENDS, IF YOU’RE SAYING YOU HAVE ON SOME LEVEL BECOME A PARIAH, AREN’T YOU — >>NO, I’M NOT SAYING THAT. COME ON. YOU KNOW AND YOU’RE TEACHING YOUR KIDS THIS. YOU’VE GOT FIVE OR TEN FRIENDS IN YOUR LIFE. EVERYONE ELSE IS A GOOD ACQUAINTANCE. I’M NOT SAYING I’VE LOST REAL FRIENDS. I’M SAYING I’VE BEEN DISAVOWED. GETTING LIT UP WITH TEXT MESSAGES FROM PEOPLE IN THE TANK FOR THE PRESIDENT. THE FLIP SIDE IS THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT I KNOW. SO I’M GOING TO PUT A COALITION OF PEOPLE TOGETHER TO EXPLAIN WHAT’S GOING ON. THEN LIKE MINDED PEOPLE, I BELIEVE, WILL CHANGE THEIR MIND AND SEEK AN ALTERNATIVE, SOMEBODY THAT’S WAY MORE NORMAL THAT CAN EMBRACE ALL OF THE SAME POLICIES BUT STRAIN OUT ALL THE BADNESS GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY. REMEMBER, A RECESSION IS A BONE BREAK. BUT A TEARING OF THE SOCIAL FABRIC IS METASTATIC CANCER.>>ALL RIGHT. ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, THANK YOU ALWAYS. FASCINATING TO GET YOUR PERSPECT O>>>ALL RIGHT. MOMENTS AGO ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI WAS TALKING ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A COALITION OF PEOPLE INCLUDING REPUBLICANS TO TRY TO CHALLENGE PRESIDENT TRUMP IN A PRIMARY. ON THIS SHOW IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS WE HAD FORMER CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH SAYING HE HASN’T RULED OUT A PRIMARY CHALLENGE TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. MARK SANFORD SAID HE WILL DECIDE BY LABOR DAY WHETHER HE PRIMARIES PRESIDENT TRUMP. SO — >>BILL WELD IS RUNNING.>>SORRY, GOVERNOR, WE LEFT YOU OUT. MY FORMER GOVERNOR THERE IS RUNNING ALREADY. WHEN DOES THIS BECOME A REAL THREAT TO PRESIDENT, IF EVER? JOINING US NOW IS MICHAEL SMERCONISH AND PAUL BEGALA. PAUL, IS THIS REAL NOW? AND WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR IT TO BE A GENUINE THREAT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP?>>NO AND A MIRACLE.>>NEXT QUESTION.>>THEY’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PRIMARY TO DONALD TRUMP. THEY MAY DAMAGE HIM OR WOUND HIM. I DON’T THINK IT WOULD BE ANYTHING AT ALL LIKE FOR EXAMPLE WHAT PAT BUCHANAN DID TO GEORGE H.W. BUSH MANY YEARS AGO. IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IF MR. SCARAMUCCI AND OTHER DISAFFECTED TRUMP REPUBLICANS, THEY WANT TO GET RID OF PRESIDENT TRUMP, THEY NEED TO FIND A HOME IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEEDS TO FIND A HOME FOR THEM. DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THE PARTY OF INCLUSION. THEY NEED TO REACH OUT AND INCLUDE DISAFFECTED REPUBLICANS. THAT’S HOW THEY WON THE HOUSE. BUT THEY’RE NOT GOING TO CHALLENGE DONALD TRUMP IN HIS OWN PARTY. HE COULD — REMEMBER HE TRAGICALLY STUPIDLY BUT ACCURATELY SAID HE COULD SHOOT A GUY ON 5th AVENUE AND NOT LOSE VOTES. WE KNOW THAT’S TRUE. DICK CHENEY SHOT A GUY AND DIDN’T LOSE VOTE.>>HE ALREADY HAD NO MORE ELECTIONS IN FRONT OF HIM.>>IN TERMS OF THE BEING EMBRACED BY THE DEMOCRATS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT ANTHONY IS TALKING ABOUT. THE LEFT NEEDS TO PROVIDE THEM AN OFFRAMP. WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS STOP CRITICIZING REPUBLICANS, BE M WITHING TO REPUBLICANS. SORT OF OPEN YOUR ARMS TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE READY TO JUMP SHIP AND SO HE’S SUGGESTING WHAT YOU ARE SO MAYBE YOU AGREE THERE WILL BE NO CHALLENGER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. HOWEVER, WHAT HE SAYS IS HIGH PROFILE REPUBLICANS WILL COME FORWARD, HE BELIEVES. HE HAS SPOKEN TO FORMER CABINET MEMBERS. AND IF HIGH PROFILE CABINET MEM MEMBERS AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP, WOULD THAT HAVE AN IMPACT?>>NO. THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT BASED ON WHAT HE JUST SAID IS WHETHER YOU HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE CURRENT CABINET STAND UP AND SAY SOMETHING. WHEN WE MADE THE FIRST THOUGHT, WHAT WAS HE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR THIS. IT’S CALLED THE 25th AMENDMENT. IT REQUIRES THE MAJORITY OF THE CABINET AND TWO-THIRDS OF EACH HOUSE. THAT’S NOT IN THE CARDS. IT’S INTERESTING TO ME. AND PAUL BROUGHT IT UP. BECAUSE IT’S VERY — NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER LOST IN A PRIMARY. I MEAN, YES, LYNDON JOHNSON WAS PUSHED OUT. HE ULTIMATELY BAILED. BUT THERE IS A LONG RECORD OF PRESIDENTS BEING DAMAGED BY PRIMARIES. YOU BROUGHT UP PAT BUCHANAN. THERE WAS TED KENNEDY AGAINST CARTER. IT CAN LEAVE A MARK. SO YOU DON’T EVEN SEE THE POSSIBILITY OF IT LEAVING A MARK?>>NO. AND HERE’S WHY. IN THE CASE OF ALL THREE OF THOSE BUCHANAN, KENNEDY, AND REAGAN, THEY CAME FROM THE ID LOGICAL BASE OF THE PARTY. THEY CAUSED THE INCUMBENT OF NOT BEING ENOUGH OF A PARTY BASE. DONALD TRUMP IS GOOD AT HOLDING THE BASE. WHAT DEMOCRATS NEED TO LISTEN TO IS THEY NEED TO CREATE AN OFFRAMP. THIS IS HOW NANCY PELOSI WON THE HOUSE. SHE FIRST RECRUITED GREAT CANDIDATES. DEMOCRATS NEED GREAT CANDIDATES. I THINK THERE’S A LOT OF TALENT IN THAT FIELD. BUT THEN THEY RAN IN TRUMP DISTRICTS ON A MESSAGE THAT WELCOMED AND INCLUDED REPUBLICANS. I MEAN, I’M A CATHOLIC. I’M A POPE FRANCIS CATHOLIC. WE’RE SEEKING OUT CONVERTS EVERY DAY. WE’RE NOT HUNTING DOWN HERETICS.>>MICHAEL, YOUR THOUGHTS?>>HOW DO I FOLLOW THAT? I THINK HE’S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I ALSO THINK PART OF WHAT MUCH WAS SAYING WAS IT DEPENDS WHAT KIND OF A DEMOCRAT WAS NOMINATED. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN APPEAL THAT ARE NOT FAR TO THE LEFT. THIS OLD PRACTICALITY VERSUS REAL PROGRESSIVISM THAT PLAYS OUT IN THE PARTY AS ELIZABETH WARREN IS HAVING A REAL ASCENSION, I THINK, AND IS POSING THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO JOE BIDEN. COULD THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL THAT ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI IS DESCRIBING FIND APPEAL WITH ELIZABETH WARREN? IT’S AN OPEN QUESTION.>>COULD I DECLARE MASSACHUSETTS PRIVILEGE HERE AND ASK ABOUT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THE MOST INTERESTING ARTICLE IN THE LAST WEEK. JOE KENNEDY IS CONSIDERING A PRIMARY CHALLENGE OR HASN’T RULED IT OUT AGAINST SENATOR ED MARKEY OF MASSACHUSETTS. NOW, THESE ARE BOTH WELL-KNOWN NAMES IN THE COMMONWEALTH. I THINK WHAT THIS SPEAKS TO IS SOMETHING BIGGER HAPPENING INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. SOMETHING GENERATIONAL HAPPENING INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. YOU THINK THAT CONGRESSMAN KENNEDY WILL DO IT? AND WHAT DOES IT TELL US ABOUT THE BROADER PICTURE HERE?>>I DON’T THINK HE WILL DO IT BUT THERE IS A CHANGE. YOU SAW PRESLEY TAKE ON CAPUANO. CAPUANO WAS A TERRIFIC PROGRESSIVE BUT A TRADITION MALL PREROGATIVE. AND PRESSLEY CAME IN WITH ALL THIS ENERGY AND KNOCKED HIM OUT. THAT’S REALLY IMPRESSIVE. IT’S A HARD THING TO DO. I THINK JOE KENNEDY MAY BE LOOKING AT THAT SAME SORT OF GENERATIONAL CHANGE. THERE IS ARRESTIVENESS IN THE PARTY. IF YOU WANT TO BE A SUCCESSFUL DEMOCRAT, YOU HAVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH THOSE UNDER 30. 65-PLUS, THAT’S MR. TRUMP’S BASE. IF WE WANT TO CUT INTO THAT, POINTING OUT THAT HE’S TRYING TO CUT MEDICARE MIGHT BE GREAT. RIGHT NOW THE GENERATIONAL HEART OF>>>SO THIS MORNING THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF MASS VOTER FRAUD IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IN 2016. AND THERE NEVER HAS BEEN. AND NOW A KEY GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL IS CALLING ON PRESIDENT TRUMP TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE FOR THESE CLAIMS THAT HE CONTINUES TO MAKE.>>MANY, MANY PEOPLE VOTED THAT SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN VOTED. SOME PEOPLE VOTED MANY TIMES. WHAT I’M SAYING IS WE NEED VOTER IDENTIFICATION. WE NEED VOTER ID.>>SO THAT WAS JUST YESTERDAY. IT FOLLOWS A SIMILARLY BASELESS CLAIM DURING A RALLY LAST WEEK IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. OUR NEXT GUEST SAYS IT’S TIME FOR THE PRESIDENT TO PUT HIS MONEY WHERE HIS MOUTH IS. JOINING US NOW IS ELLEN WINETROP THE CHAIR OF THE FEDERAL ELECTION ADMISSION. CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. YOU WROTE A LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT THAT SAID OUR DEMOCRACY DEPENDS ON THE ELECTION PROCESS. YOUR VOTER FRAUD CLAIMS UNDERMINE THAT. YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY PROOF OF THESE ALLEGATIONS. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN YOU NEED TO LAY YOUR CARDS ON THE TABLE OR FOLD. WHY DID YOU WRITE THIS TO THE PRESIDENT?>>HI, JOHN. FACTS MATTER. AND PEOPLE OF AMERICA NEED TO BE ABLE TO BELIEVE WHAT THEIR LEADERS TELL THEM. IT IS DAMAGING TO OUR DEMOCRACY TO SPREAD INFORMATION THAT AS YOU YOURSELF JUST SCRIDESCRIBES BASELESS. THERE WAS NO RAMPANT VOTER FRAUD IN 2016 OR ANY PREVIOUS ELECTION. PEOPLE HAVE STUDIED THIS. ACADEMICS HAVE STUDIED THIS. THE GOVERNMENT HAS STUDIED THIS. DEMOCRATS HAVE STUDIED THIS. REPUBLICANS HAVE STUDIED THIS. AND NO ONE CAN FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF RAMPANT VOTER FRAUD EITHER HISTORICALLY OR PARTICULARLY IN THE 2016 ELECTIONS. I THINK IT IS DAMAGING TO OUR DEMOCRACY TO SPREAD INFORMATION LIKE THAT AS IF THERE IS NO PROOF. NOW, IF THERE IS PROOF, THEN WE REALLY NEED TO BE TAKING ACTION ABOUT THAT THESE ARE SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS. LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED. BUT IF THERE IS NO PROOF, THESE THINGS SHOULDN’T BE SAID.>>HAS THE WHITE HOUSE RESPONDED TO YOUR REQUEST FOR FURTHER INFORMATION?>>NOT SO MUCH.>>HAS THE WHITE HOUSE EVER AND I MEAN INCLUDING THE COMMISSION CHAIRED BY MIKE PENCE PRODUCED ANY EVIDENCE AND HANDED OVER TO YOU THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION OF FRAUD IN NEW HAMPSHIRE OR CALIFORNIA RATHER PLACED IN 2016?>>NO. AND I’M NOT AWARE OF THEM HANDING ANY EVIDENCE OVER TO THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES WHO WOULD HAVE JURISDICTION OVER WHAT HAPPENED IN THEIR OWN STATES. IT’S — IN FACT, I’VE HEARD FROM FOLKS AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL WHO WEREOFFENDED BY THIS. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS INSULTING TO THE WAY THEY RAN THEIR ELECTIONS IN EACH AND EVERY STATE TO SUGGEST THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW THIS KIND OF RAMPANT VOTER FRAUD TO GO ON. I’VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, I WAS AT THE POLLING STATIONS. THERE WERE NO BUSES. WE DIDN’T HAVE ROOM IN THE PARKING LOTS FOR THESE KINDS OF BUSES. AND THIS KIND OF INFORMATION REALLY TO PUT OUT INFORMATION THAT HAS NO PROOF, HAS NO EVIDENCE BEHIND IT, IT’S DAMAGING TO OUR DEMOCRACY.>>HOW?>>IT CAUSES PAEOPLE TO LOSE FAITH. IT CAUSES PEOPLE TO QUESTION THE RESULTS. WE HAVE SOME THREATS TO OUR DEMOCRACY RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE THREATS FROM ABROAD THAT OUR NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WARNING ABOUT. THERE ARE BIPARTISAN BILLS IN CONGRESS THAT CANNOT GET VOTES, THAT CANNOT GET THROUGH CONGRESS THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE SERIOUS AND REAL THREATS TO OUR DEMOCRACY. THAT’S WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON OUR ATTENTION. TO BE SUGGESTING TO PEOPLE THAT IF THE CANDIDATE THAT THEY DON’T LIKE — IF THEY CANDIDATE THEY CHOOSE DOESN’T WIN, THAT IT’S BECAUSE OF FRAUD, THAT UNDERMINES OUR DEMOCRACY. IT UNDERMINES PEOPLE’S FAITH. ONCE THAT FAITH IS BROKEN, IT IS HARD TO BUILD IT UP AGAIN.>>SINCE WE HAVE YOU HERE, NO BETTER TO ASK. THE PRESIDENT DID AN EVENT LAST WEEK IN PENNSYLVANIA IN WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA WHERE HE SPOKE AT A COMPANY. THIS WAS AN OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE EVENT. YET A LOT OF WHAT HE SEEMED TO THE CAMPAIGN AND HIS RE-ELECTION. LISTEN TO THIS.>>I’M GOING TO SPEAK TO SOME OF YOUR UNION LEADERS TO SAY, I HOPE YOU’RE GOING TO SUPPORT TRUMP. OKAY? AND IF THEY DON’T, VOTE THEM THE HELL OUT OF OFFICE BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB. IT’S TRUE. VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE.>>AGAIN, THIS WAS A WHITE HOUSE EVENT, A GOVERNMENT EVENT, A TAXPAYER FUNDED EVENT. WHAT IS THE LAW BETWEEN WHAT IS A POLITICAL EVENT AND A GOVERNMENT EVENT?>>I WOULD NOT WANT TO OPINE ON ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT COULD BECOME THE SUBJECT OF A COMPLAINT TO THE COMMISSION. IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO WEIGH IN ON THAT IN ADVANCE. I CAN JUST SAY AS A GENERAL MATTER, THAT GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES AND CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE KEPT SEPARATE. UNDER CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS, UNDER ETHICS RULES. THERE’S SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATE. IT’S A DIFFICULT DETERMINATION SOMETIMES. IT’S NOT ALWAYS OBVIOUS IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE WHAT’S OFFICIAL AND WHAT IS. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK EVERYTHING AN OFFICE HOLDER DOES IS POLITICAL. I DON’T WANT TO WEIGH IN ON ANY PARTICULAR FACT AND CIRCUMSTANCES.>>I UNDERSTAND YOU DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS HERE AND YOU CORRECTLY NOTE THAT EVERY PRESIDENT COMES UNDER SOME ACCUSATION FOR MIXES EVENTS. PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF ACCUSED BARACK OBAMA OF USING AIR FORCE ONE FOR HIS — BUT THE CAMPAIGNS REIMBURSE FOR EVENTS DEEMED POLITICAL. WHY IS THIS — WHY IS A CAMPAIGN REIMBURSING THE TREASURY WHEN AN EVENT IS DEEMED POLITICAL?>>WELL, IN THE BROADER POSSIBLE TERMS, YOU DON’T WANT TO HAVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS SUPPORTING AN INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATE’S CAMPAIGN OUTSIDE OF THE NOW LARGELY OBSOLETE PUBLIC FUNDING SYSTEM THAT HAS ITS OWN SETS OF RULES. YOU DON’T — IT’S A CONCEPT CALLED THE ABUSE OF STATE RESOURCES. AND IT’S SOMETHING THAT COUNTRIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WORRY ABOUT. WHETHER THE PARTY AND POWER IS GOING TO USE THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM. AND THIS IS TRUE NOT JUST THE PRESIDENCY BUT AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL. AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. YOU DON’T WANT TO HAVE THE INCUMBENTS HAVE THE — IN ADDITION TO THE INHERITED VALUE OF INCUMBENCY, TO ADVANCE THEIR OWN CAMPAIGNS.>>YOU SAID YOU DON’T WANT TO

Maurice Vega

19 Responses

  1. Scaramucci is making total sense. I would vote for anyone republican over trump.
    My last alternative is voting democratic other than Trump

  2. After all the people Trump has ripped off over the years by not paying proper wages to & by employing immigrants on below average wages , how can UNIONS TRUST A LIAR LIKE TRUMP .?

  3. Hmm….why do I get the feeling that dirt bag Mooch is getting ready to launch a Presidential campaign of his own? Ya think? Oh well, in my view, it would just be a scumbag replacing another scumbag.

  4. Trump is afraid of losing his base through stronger laws on gun control! All this gun violence falls on the Republicans watch, blood is on their hands!

  5. #45 link the White House to the Lie Houseđź‘Ž

    Can't live off Obama forever without putting in work… Silly Rab-bit

    Funny how #45 mouth takes 2 steps up and his NRA makes him takes 8 steps back

  6. Greenland has a small native population. trump will have no qualms about screwing
    them out of their homes, for as little as he can possibly get away with. The ice is very
    rapidly melting, and the underlying land is rich in resources to be mined brutally. trump
    will gut Greenland like a fish. It will become a barren, and lifeless, rocky atoll in the ocean. trump wants access too gut it for his own deep pockets, and meager fortunes. Access to the American economy, has only increased his narcissistic greed and feeling of his entitlement
    to enrich himself by hook, or by crook. He is an unmitigated PIG. A very truly loathsome, and disgusting creature.

  7. Republicans always put us in recession to enrich themselves then Democrats come pickup the pieces to stabilize the economy then they come again and repeat the same thing over and over again… When are the American people going to learn?

  8. Trump foundation are the only companies that can hire illegal immigrants.His policies is. DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO.

  9. This guy is a disgrace and a Judas he turned on trump so he can sell books CNN loves trash like him and look how much they loved the creepy porn lawyer and his whore stormy daniels CNN are nothing but a Jerry Springer show

  10. Trump is too sick (and too old) for what he shows himself to be! He makes more mistakes "Daily" That ass whole does NOT belong in Office!!! get him out to pasteur!!!

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