Joe Moody Gets Emotional As He TEARS INTO Trump for Doing Nothing to Stop the Mass Sho0tings


GRANDPARENTS, THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS NOW GONE. IF YOU THINK THE PAIN HAS DULLED IT ALL I SPOKE TO A RESIDENT THIS MORNING WHO TALKED ABOUT A CULTURE OF FEAR AND HATE AND THE FEAR IT STRIKES IN THEIR HEARTS TODAY. THIS IS COMMUNITY REELING AND IT’S A COMMUNITY THAT THE PRESIDENT WILL NOW VISIT TOMORROW, AN ARRIVAL THAT THREATENS TO DIVIDE A CITY STILL TRYING TO PULL ITSELF TOGETHER. EL PASO’S DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS SENT AN OPEN LETTER ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO CANCEL HIS VISIT. THE TRIP IS BEING PLANNED AS THE CONVERSATION BEGINS OVER ACTIONS TO TAKE TO PREVENT SHOOTINGS LIKE THESE, AND YET AGAIN THOSE CONVERSATIONS RACKED BY BIPARTISANSHIP. TODAY WE’LL TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THOSE IDEAS AND THE ONES THAT CAME BEFORE THEM. WE’RE GOING TO SHOW YOU EVIDENCE OF WHICH GUN LAWS HAVE WORKED, THAT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE AND WHICH ONES SLAENT AS WELL. WE’RE GOING TO TRY TO CHANGE THE CONVERSATION, LOOK FORWARD. ALSO A CONVERSATION ALSO TAKING PLACE IN DAYTON, OHIO, THE SCENE OF THE SECOND MASS SHOOTING THIS PAST WEEKEND. THE PRESIDENT WILL ALSO VISIT THAT CRIME SCENE TOMORROW AS PEOPLE THERE CONTINUE TO MOURN THE DEATHS OF NINE PEOPLE. THE DISTRICT WHERE IT HAPPENED REOPENS TODAY AND WHILE POLICE CONTINUE TO SEARCH FOR A MOTIVE BEHIND THE MASSACRE WE’RE LEARNING DISTURBING NEW DETAILS ON WHAT THE GUNMAN SHARED ONLINE PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING. JOINING ME NOW IS DREW GRIFFON. HE’S LIVE IN DAYTON. WHAT ARE WE LEARNING THIS MORNING?>>Reporter: REALLY THE EMERGING STORY HERE, JIM, IS THE MENTAL HEALTH WARNINGS, YEARS OF THEM APPARENTLY MISSED OR IGNORED. FIRST TO HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT WHICH IS VERY LEFT LEANING. HE’S RETWEETING SUPPORT FOR GROUPS LIKE ANTIFA AND VIOLENCE AGAINST POLICE. HE’S ALSO SUPPORTING THE MORE PROGRESSIVE YOU MIGHT SAY CANDIDATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THIS ACCORDING TO A TWITTER ACCOUNT THAT HAS NOW BEEN REMOVED FROM TWITTER THAT CNN HAS CONFIRMED IS THE SHOOTER’S ACCOUNT. BUT WE GO BACK TO HIGH SCHOOL WHERE FELLOW STUDENTS TELL US THAT THIS SHOOTER WAS REMOVED FROM SCHOOL BY POLICE BECAUSE OF A KILL LIST AND A RAPE LIST THAT HE HAD IN SCHOOL AT THE TIME. HE WAS ABLE TO COME BACK TO SCHOOL AND APPEARED NORMAL AFTER APPARENTLY SOME KIND OF A COUNSELING OR TREATMENT. BUT THEN JUST RECENTLY A GIRLFRIEND HAS COME FORWARD IN SAYING IN RECENT MONTHS SHE WAS DATING THIS SHOOTER WHO SHE SAYS HAD SUICIDAL THOUGHTS AND FASCINATIONS WITH MASS MURDER. ALL OF THIS TAKING PLACE WHILE PEOPLE KNEW THIS SHOOTER HAD GUNS, WAS TRAINING WITH GUNS, HAD A FASCINATION FOR GUNS. SO IT’S ALL POINTING TO THE STORY WE’VE HEARD SO MANY TIMES BEFORE, JIM, THERE WAS SOME SORT OF MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS IN THIS PERSON’S HEAD THAT PEOPLE JUST KIND OF IGNORED. JIM?>>HOW OFTEN IS THAT IT CASE WHERE YOU SEE THOSE RED FLAGS, PRIOR RED FLAGS THAT WERE IGNORED? AS YOU’VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS, WERE THERE ANY POLICE RECORDS, SCHOOL RECORDS THAT WOULD CONFIRM AUTHORITIES HAD KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HIS APPARENT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES PRIOR TO THIS ATTACK?>>Reporter: WELL, FROM FROM THE TIME HE WASSEN ADULT THE ONLY ARREST RECORDS WE COULD FIND WERE A COUPLE OF TRAFFIC TICKETS AND ONE DUI ARREST WHEN HE WAS 21 YEARS OLD. WE KNOW POLICE PULLED HIM OFF A SCHOOL BUS AND ARRESTED HIM. THAT WAS ALL BASED ON THE KILL LIST WE OBTAINED. WE ALSO LEARN HE RELENTLESSLY BULLIED ONE CHILD. A MOTHER SAID SHE CALLED AND WENT TO THE SCHOOL AND DEMANDED SOMETHING TO BE DONE BECAUSE OF THE BULLYING THAT HER SON HAD ENDURED. WE HAVE ASKED THOSE RECORDS FROM THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY SAY THEY’RE EXPUNGED AND UNDER SEAL. WE ARE NOW FIGHTING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO RELEASE WHAT THEY KNOW, AND THEY ARE SAYING THAT THAT REQUEST IS UNDER A PENDING LEGAL REVIEW. JIM?>>DREW GRIFFON ON THE STORY. THANKS VERY MUCH.>>>THE PRESIDENT’S UPCOMING VISITS TO DAYTON AND HERE IN EL PASO ARE ALREADY GENERATING CONTROVERSY AND SOME REAL PUBLIC OPPOSITION. MY NEXT GUEST, JOE MOODY, HE’S A DEMOCRAT THAT REPS EL PASO IN THE STATEHOUSE. JOE, YOU HAVE SAID AS OTHER DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS HAVE SAID NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR THE PRESIDENT TO VISIT. WHY IS THAT?>>OUR COMMUNITY IS HEALING. THERE IS A LARGE SEGMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY INCLUDING MYSELF THAT FIND THE HATEFUL RHETORIC THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS USED ABOUT IMMIGRANTS THROUGHOUT THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE FIND THAT REALLY MAKES HIM COMPLICIT IN THE VIOLENT ACTS THAT TOOK PLACE HERE, AND THAT’S HARD FOR US TO WORK THROUGH. I THINK AT A LATER TIME IF HE WANTS TO COME HERE AND BE REPETITANT AND TALK ABOUT REAL TANGIBLE CHANGE, THERE’S PROBABLY A TIME AND PLACE FOR THAT BUT IT’S JUST NOT RIGHT NOW.>>I KNOW YOUR VOICE IS NOT SOLITARY. I SPOKE TO RESIDENTS TODAY AND YESTERDAY WHO SAID THE SAME THING. A WOMAN TOLD ME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO NUTS BECAUSE THEY SEE THE RHETORIC COMING FROM THE TOP. DO YOU SEE PROTESTS?>>I CAN’T SEE HOW THAW THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN. I KNOW WHAT I WANT TO DO TO REP MY COMMUNITY AND THAT’S TO SHOW LOVE AND PRIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I’M NOT ASHAMED WE’RE A COMMUNITY OF IMMIGRANTS. THAT’S WHAT MAKES US GREAT. I WANT THE PRIDE TO SHOW THROUGH TOMORROW IF HE DOES END UPCOMING, AND I HOPE THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL DO THE SAME THING.>>YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT AND OTHERS HAVE PORTRAYED BORDER AREAS LIKE THIS AS SORT OF A FRONTIER BETWEEN TWO HOSTILE COUNTRIES. IN MY EXPERIENCE HERE WHAT I HAVE LEARNED AND SEEN IS JUST HOW INTEGRATED THESE COMMUNITIES ARE. I MET A WOMAN TODAY WHOSE HUSBAND LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BORDER. I MET A MAN YESTERDAY WHO MARRIED ON THIS SIDE OF THE BORD. THEY DO BUSINESS ON BOTH SIDES. THAT’S THE NATURE OF THIS COMMUNITY, IS IT NOT? NOT ONE THAT WANTS A GIANT WALL, FOR INSTANCE, BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM?>>THAT’S WHO WE ARE. IN FACT DAYS BEFORE THIS HAPPENED WU SAW AN ARTIST WENT OUT TO ONE OF THE BORDER WALLS AND PUT A SEESAW BETWEEN THEM SO YOU COULD SEE HOW INTERCONNECTED THESE COMMUNITIES ARE. IT’S HEART BREAKING WHEN SOMEONE CALLS THIS A WAR ZONE OR USES WORDS LIKE INFESTATION OR INVASION. THAT’S HARMFUL. IT’S HURTFUL, AND IT’S HATEFUL. AND IT LEADS TO THINGS LIKE WE SAW IN EL PASO AND I HOPE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WORDS MATTER AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD.>>AMERICANS WATCHING TODAY, THEY’VE SEEN SO MANY SHOOTINGS LIKE THIS. I’VE COVERED SO MANY SHOOTINGS LIKE THIS. AFTER EACH ONE WE ALL ASK THE QUESTION WILL THIS BE DIFFERENT, WILL CHANGE COME? AND BASED ON COMMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT, BASED ON COMMENTS FROM GOP LAWMAKERS I’VE SPOKEN TO, MEASURES THAT HAVE BROAD SUPPORT EVEN AMONG REPUBLICANS, UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, BANNING HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES, THEY APPEAR TO BE DEAD IN THE WATER. AS SOMEONE PART OF A COMMUNITY WHO JUST SUFFERED A BLOODY CRIME HERE IN A WAL-MART, WHAT’S YOUR REACTION TO THAT?>>I HOPE THAT IN TEXAS WE’VE FACED IT SEVERAL TIMES. IN DALLAS WE SAW A SHOOTER GUN DOWN POLICE, IN SUTHERLAND SPRINGS IN A CHURCH, IN A SCHOOL. EACH TIME WE’VE TAKEN SMALL STEPS FORWARD TO ADDRESS THOSE SINGULAR INSTANCE. HOPEFULLY WHAT THIS WILL DO IS OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION SO THESE THINGS AREN’T HAPPENING IN A VACUUM, THESE AREN’T SINGULAR INSTANCES. THIS IS PERVASIVE PROBLEM WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.>>WE’RE ROOTING FOR THE COMMUNITY HERE. PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP.>>THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.>>CAUGHT UP IN THIS DEBATE HOW TO STOP GUN VIOLENCE ARE MORE THAN TWO DOZEN FAMILIES NOW MOURNING THE LOSS OF THEIR LOVED ONES. THIS IS PERSONAL FOR THEM. THEY’RE GOING TO BE SUFFERING THROUGH THIS FOR YEARS. JORDAN AND HER HUSBAND ANDRE THEY’RE AMONG THE 22 PEOPLE MURDERED HERE IN EL PASO. THEY WERE INSIDE THE WAL-MART WITH THEIR 2 MONTH OLD BABY SON DOING WHAT MANY PARENTS DO THIS TIME OF YEAR, BUYING SUPPLIES FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR. IT’S A TIME OF HOPE, A NEW BEGINNING. AS THE GUNFIRE ERUPTED JORDAN SHIELDED HER BABY WITH HER BODY. ANDRE JUMPED IN FRONT OF HIS WIFE.>>WE PRAY A LOT, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS. THE CHURCH IS BROKEN, OUR LIVES ARE BROKEN. YOU GO TO CALL HER AND YOU FORGET SHE’S NOT THERE, AND YOU JUST KEEP ON GOING BECAUSE THERE’S KIDS THAT NEED US.>>IN THAT ONE FAMILY THERE ARE NOW THREE ORPHANS. IN ADDITION TO THE 2 MONTH OLD BABY BOY THEY LEAVE BEHIND A 5-YEAR-OLD AND A 2-YEAR-OLD AS WELL. ONE FAMILY SUFFERING, ONE AMONG MANY FAMILIES. STILL TO COME JOE BIDEN SPEAKING TO ANDERSON COOPER IN THE WAKE OF THESE SHOOTINGS. HIS REACTION TO THE VIOLENCE, HIS EMOTIONAL PERSONAL RESPONSE AS WELL. AND HOW SHOULD THIS COUNTRY ADDRESS THE GROWING ISSUE OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM? IS LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THE THREAT? WE WILL DISCUSS COMING UP. WE ARE ALSO KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THE MARKETS TODAY AS THE TRADE WAR BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CHINA HEATS UP. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION LABELING CHINA A CURRENCY MANIPULATOR. THAT NEWS SENT THE MARKETS PLUNGING. MORE FALLS EXPECTED TODAY. STAY WITH US.>>>WELCOME BACK HERE TO EL PASO. DOZENS OF FAMILIES NOW FACE A FUTURE THAT TWO GUNMEN SHATTERED OVER THE WEEKEND WITH THESE HORRIBLE CRIMES. IMAGINE THEIR SITUATION. IT’S A SUDDEN LOSS THAT MOST OF US HOPE NEVER TO EXPERIENCE. TOO MANY AMERICAN FAMILIES HAVE NOW. AND TRULY ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT LOSS CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS, WHAT IT FEELS LIKE, THE COSTS EMOTIONAL AND OTHERWISE. JOE BIDEN IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. HE LOST HIS FIRST WIFE AND DAUGHTER IN A CAR ACCIDENT NEARLY 50 YEARS AGO. LATER HE LOST HIS SON TO CANCER JUST THREE YEARS AGO. LISTEN NOW TO WHAT HE SAID ABOUT DEALING WITH THAT PAIN AND HOW IT MAKES HIM UNDERSTAND THE PAIN THESE COMMUNITIES ARE GOING THROUGH.>>YOU’VE EXPERIENCED LOSSES THAT NO PARENT SHOULD EVER EXPERIENCE FROM EL PASO TO HERE, LIKELY BE TALKING TO FAMILY MEMBERS WHOSE CHILD OR SISTER OR BROTHER OR OR MOTHER OR FATHER HAS BEEN KILLED. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN THROUGH THAT AND LIVED THROUGH THAT AND LIVED WITH THAT EVERY DAY, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GRIEVING RIGHT NOW?>>YOU UNDERSTAND IT. YOU LOST YOUR BROTHER. YOU UNDERSTAND. IT REALLY — IT REALLY TAKES A PART OF YOUR SOUL. IT IS — WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS THAT IT’S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME, BUT THE PERSON YOU LOST IS STILL WITH YOU, STILL PART OF YOU. AND THAT I — WHEN IT HAPPENED TO ME, WHEN I GOT A PHONE CALL WHEN I WAS IN WASHINGTON AFTER I WAS ELECTED BEFORE I GOT SWORN IN, THEY PUT A FIRST RESPONDER ON THE PHONE AND GOD LOVE HER AND SAID YOU’VE GOT TO COME HOME, AND THERE’S BEEN AN ACCIDENT, AND THEY’RE DEAD, YOUR WIFE AND DAUGHTER AND DEAD. I REMEMBER THINKING TO MYSELF, MY GOD, I JUST REMEMBER BEING SO ANGRY, ANGRY AT EVERYTHING. JUST ANGRY. AND I REMEMBER PEOPLE WOULD COME UP TO ME AND SAY, MEANING WELL, I UNDERSTAND. AND YOU FEEL LIKE SAYING YOU HAVE NO IDEA, YOU HAVE NO IDEA. YOU KNOW THEY MEAN WELL. YOU KNOW THEY UNDERSTAND, AND IT GIVES YOU SOLACE THEY MADE IT. YOU JUST WANT TO KNOW CAN I MAKE IT THROUGH? AND I HAD AN OLDER GENTLEMAN, 35 YEARS MY SENIOR AND A FORMER ELECTED OFFICIAL IN NEW JERSEY CALL ME, A FORMER GOVERNOR AND SAID I UNDERSTAND AND I ALMOST SAID DON’T. AND HE SAID I WAS WALKING HOME FROM LUNCH AND I WAS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND MY WIFE, A WOMAN CAME RUNNING ACROSS THE MALL SAYING SHE’S DEAD, SHE’S DEAD, YOUR WIFE JUST DIED. AND I SAID — AND I REALIZED HE DID KNOW. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I DID, THERE’S TWO THINGS. ONE, HE SAID GET A PIECE OF GRAPH PAPER AND MARK EVERY SINGLE DAY HOW YOU FELT FROM 1 TO 10 THAT DAY. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU LOST YOUR BROTHER, WHEN A THOUGHT WOULD COME TO YOU AFTER A WHILE YOU’D BE JUST AS DOWN AS THE MOMENT IT HAPPENED. AND HE SAID DON’T LOOK AT IT FOR SIX MONTHS. MARK IT ON A GRAPH PAPER 1 TO 10. YOU KNOW YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE IT WHEN THEY GET FURTHER AND FURTHER AND FURTHER APART, STILL GET DOWN.>>IT NEVER GOES AWAY.>>IT NEVER GOES AWAY, BUT THAT’S WHEN YOU KNOW YOU CAN MAKE IT. THAT’S WHEN YOU KNOW YOU CAN EMBRACE THE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE LEFT. THAT’S WHEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE A CONTRIBUTION. JUST LIKE WHEN I LOST MY SON I REMEMBER TO HIM SAYING TO ME — I WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT, UNFORTUNATELY. I WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT HE WAS LIKE. AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND WHEN WE’D GO HOME ON FRIDAYS TO HAVE DINNER, HE LIVED ABOUT A MILE FROM US, AND HE ASKED HIS WIFE TO TAKE THE KIDS UPSTAIRS, AND MY WIFE HAD GONE HOME TO CHANGE. AND BEFORE SHE CAME BACK WE GOT RIGHT OFF THE TRAIN AND HE SAID, DAD, LOOK AT ME DAD, I’M GOING TO BE OKAY NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. HE KNEW HE ONLY HAD MONTHS TO GO, BUT HE SAID PROMISE ME, DAD, PROMISE ME YOU’LL BE OKAY. AND I I SAID I’LL BE A OKAY. WE HAD A THING IN OUR FAMILY, DAD, PROMISE ME AS A BIDEN, GIVE ME YOUR WORD AS A BIDEN YOU’LL BE OKAY AND THAT’S A SACRED THING WE DO. I KNEW WHAT HE MEANT. HE MEANT DAD, DON’T DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, YOU WANT TO TURN INWARD, YOU WANT TO WALL YOURSELF OFF, YOU DON’T WANT TO BE PART OF IT ALL. HE KNEW I’D TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS. HE KNEW I WOULD BE THERE FOR THE FAMILY, BUT IT’S THE THING — THE OTHER THING I WOULD STRONGLY URGE PEOPLE AND THEY CAN’T DO IT NOW, THEY CAN’T EVEN THINK THROUGH THE FOG RIGHT NOW. BUT EVENTUALLY WHAT WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH IS PURPOSE. FIND A PURPOSE, SOMETHING THAT MATTERS PARTICULARLY IF THERE’S SOMETHING CONNECTED TO THE LOSS YOU JUST HAD. AND SO I DON’T WANT TO BE TOO PERSONAL BUT I GET UP IN THE MORNING AND THINK TO MYSELF IS HE PROUD OF ME, AM I DOING WHAT HE WANTS? AND I’M SURE IT’S THE SAME WAY WITH YOU AND A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, BUT AT A MOMENT THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN YOU THINK OF THE PERSON YOU LOST AND IT TAKES A LONG WHILE, WHERE YOU GET A SMILE BEFORE YOU GET A TEAR. AND THAT’S WHEN YOU KNOW YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE IT. AND SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH WHAT I’VE BEEN THROUGH WITHOUT THE HELP I HAD. THINK OF ALL THE HEROES OUT THERE WALKING THE STREETS TODAY WHO GET UP EVERY SINGLE MORNING AND PUT ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER AND THEY MOVE, THEY MOVE.>>MY MOM USED TO SAY THE SAME, BE KIND BECAUSE EVERYONE YOU MEET IS IN A GREAT BATTLE.>>YOU’RE RIGHT. SOMETIMES IT’S REALLY DARK, BUT THERE IS HOPE. AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS FOR THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS YOU HAVE LEFT. THEY NEED YOU. THEY NEED YOU. AND LOOK, FOLKS, THAT’S WHY I THINK THAT IT MATTERS THE STORIES OF THESE PEOPLE. FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A STATISTIC, THIS IS — THIS IS WHO WE ARE, WHO THEY ARE. I MEAN IT’S A — AND IT REALLY IS ABOUT SORT OF REWEAVING THAT SOCIAL FABRIC THAT HOLDS SOCIETY TOGETHER, HONESTY, DECENCY, HOPE, LEAVING NOBODY BEHIND, GIVING HATE NO SAFE HARBOR. THAT’S WHO WE ARE, AND IT’S THE THING THAT HOLDS US TOGETHER. AND I DON’T SEE MUCH OF IT COMING FROM THE FAR RIGHT OR THE BREITBARTS OF THE WORLD AND THIS ADMINISTRATION. IT’S THE UNIQUENESS OF AMERICA.>>MR. VICE PRESIDENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>SORRY, I DIDN’T MEAN TO GET SO PERSONAL.>>NO, I APPRECIATE IT.>>IT’S JUST AMAZING HOW IT’S — EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO DONALD TRUMP IS. WE GOT TO LET THEM KNOW WHO WE ARE. EVEN HIS SUPPORTERS KNOW WHO HE IS. THEY KNOW THIS IS ABOUT THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL CHARACTER TRAITS. I MEAN IT’S — AND I THINK — I THINK SOMETIMES HE THINKS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS THING, THAT WE TALK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE LIKE WE’RE BEING SUCKERS, YOU KNOW, LIKE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. I DON’T KNOW. MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY TRUTH OVER LIES. IT’S — BUT WE’VE GOT TO MAKE SURE NOT BECAUSE I’M RUNNING, WE’VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHOEVER YOU’RE TRYING TO LEAD THAT YOU MEAN WHAT YOU SAY OR S SOME AUTHENTICITY TO IT AND IT MATTERS, AND YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO IT REALLY MATTERS.>>THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT THERE STRIKING A HOPEFUL NOTE. AND I’LL TELL YOU EVEN HERE AMIDST THE PAIN IN EL PASO I’VE HEARD SIMILAR HOPE HERE. A WOMAN TOLD ME THIS MORNING IT WILL GET BETTER. REMARKABLE TO HEAR THAT EVEN JUST DAYS AFTER THE SUFFERING THAT THEY’VE SEEN HERE IN EL PASO. SO LET’S GET BIGGER PICTURE FOR A MOMENT. DOMESTIC TERRORISM, THE NUMBERS SHOW ACROSS THE BOARD IT IS ON THE RISE, OFTEN DRIVEN BY WHITE SUPREMACY. WHO IS TO BLAME? WE’RE GOING TO BE DIGGING DEEPER THIS MORNING AND TALKING ABOUT SOLUTIONS, WHAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE? AND WE ARE MOMENTS AWAY FROM THE OPENING BELL ON WALL STREET. STOCKS THERE SHOULD OPEN HIGHER, THIS AFTER CHINA’S CENTRAL BANK SAYS>>>AND WELCOME BACK. I’M PAMELA BROWN IN WASHINGTON. WE’RE GOING TO GET BACK TO JIM IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT FIRST STOCKS BOUNCING BACK AFTER THE WORST DAY OF TRADING IN 2019. THIS MORNING CHINA STABILIZING ITS CURRENCY JUST HOURS AFTER THE U.S. CALLED ITS CURRENCY A MANIPULATOR. ALLISON?>>AND THERE YOU HAVE IT, THE OPENING BELL GETTING READY FOR STOCKS TO REBOUND. INVESTORS ARE GETTING SOME RELIEF AFTER CHINA’S CENTRAL BANK AFTER INDICATING IT WANTS IT’S CURRENCY TO TRADE HIGHER AGAINST THE DOLLAR. THIS FOLLOWS AFTER CHINA ALLOWED ITS CURRENCY TO DEPRECIATE YESTERDAY. WE SAW THE DOW DROP 900 POINTS OR MORE. BUT NOW STOCKS ARE TRYING TO FIND THEIR FOOTING OR SOME STABILITY DESPITE THE FACT THERE’S REALLY NO END IN SIGHT FOR THE TRADE WAR, THE THING, THE ESCALATION THAT CAUSED THAT SELL-OFF YESTERDAY. GOLDMAN SACHS WE LEARNED HAS TOLD ITS CLIENT IT EXPECTS THE TRADE WAR TO LAST ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION NEXT YEAR, 2020. PAM?>>THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US THE LATEST THERE. I WANT TO GO BACK TO JIM ON THE GROUND IN EL PASO, TEXAS. JIM?>>PAMELA, THANKS SO MUCH. THE BLOODSHED HERE IN EL PASO YET ANOTHER SICKENING REMINDER OF THE WORST IN AMERICA, DOMESTIC TERRORISM AT THE HANDS OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS. THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS TODAY, WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THIS? WHAT CAN BE DONE TO STOP IT? WITH ME NOW A CNN CONTRIBUTOR AND A DIRECTOR FOR THE CENTER OF THE STUDY OF HATE. BRIAN, I WANT TO BEGIN WITH YOU. THE STATISTICS ARE CLEAR HERE WHETHER FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE OR OTHERS. THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE IS ON THE RISE. IT SHOWS SOME STATISTICS HERE. ACTS OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM INCREASING. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ACTS OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM DRIVEN BY WHITE SUPREMACISTS. WHITE WING EXTREMISTS KILLED MORE PEOPLE IN 2018 THAN IN ANY YEAR SINCE 1995. YOU STUDIED THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE. WHY IS THIS ON THE RISE?>>GREAT QUESTION. AND JUST LET ME TELL YOU IT IS ON THE RISE. WE HAVE BRAND NEW DATA EVEN NEWER THAN THAT, AND IF ANYONE WANTS IT, PROP 11, YOU CAN FIND IT. LISTEN TO THIS, JIM, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS IS WE’RE POLITICALLY POLARIZING AND WE’RE ENTRENCHED IN THAT POLARIZATION. BUT ALSO HATE CRIMES ARE GOING UP. WE HAVE A STUDY JUST OUT EVEN NEWER THAN ALL THAT DATA YOU JUST POSTED. OUT OF 30 AMERICAN CITIES HATE CRIMES HAVE RISEN NOW FOR FIVE CONSECUTIVE YEARS INTO 2018 AND WE’RE SEE AGEN INCREASE INTO 2019. WHITE SUPREMACY KILLINGS, LISTEN TO THIS, ONLY OTHREE IN 2016, WENT UP TO 13 THE NEXT YEAR, 17 IN 2018. THIS YEAR ALONE — LISTEN TO THIS, EVERYONE, THIS IS CHILLING — WE NOW HAVE MORE WHITE SUPREMACIST HOMICIDES, MORE OF THOSE THIS YEAR THAN ALL OF THE EXTREMIST HOMICIDES PUT TOGETHER THAN LAST YEAR. THERE’S AN INTERNATIONAL TREND TOWARDS WHITE NATIONALISM AND WHAT WE HAVE ARE THESE FOLKS WHO ARE RADICALIZED ON THE INTERNET AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO UNLIKE HATE MONGERS FROM BEFORE WHO WOULD GET TOGETHER WITH FRIENDS IN THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES, WHAT THEY’RE DOING NOW IS VERTICAL INTEGRATION WHERE THEY’RE LOOKING AT PAST POSTINGS OF PAST VIOLENCE SAYING I’M GOING TO GO OUT AND DO THE SAME AND DESCRIBE A NEW ACT OF VIOLENCE IN THIS BOOK OF HATE, BUT GUESS WHAT? THEY’RE NOW MEMORIALIZING IT, AND THAT’S A PROBLEM. JUST IN CLOSING, IN THE BEGINNING WE DO SOMETHING CALLED PROPAGANDA OF THE DEED. NOW IT’S PROPAGANDA OF THE DEED 2.0 WHERE THEY ACTUALLY COMMIT THE VIOLENCE AND THEN MEMORIALIZE IT IN SOME WAY WITH THE INTERNET AND REFERENCE IT BACK WITH PRIOR KILLERS AND RACIST SCREENS.>>WHAT’S INTERESTING TO ME HAVING COVERED TERRORISM AND DOMESTIC TERRORISM IS THE RAD RADICALIZATION OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS OFTEN ONLINE FOLLOWS THE SAME PATTERN YOU’VE SEEN WITH ISLAMIST TERRORISM. THE LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY TYPICALLY FOLLOWING 9/11 MAKE IT FAR EASIER FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO STOP TERRORISM, ISLAMIST INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM BEFORE IT HAPPENS THAN DOMESTIC TERRORISM. I WANT TO PLAY A SOUND BITE FROM PETE BUTTIGIEG THIS MORNING AND GET YOUR REACTION. HAVE A LISTEN.>>RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM THE MAJORITY OF ARRESTS HAPPEN BEFORE THERE’S AN ATTACK. THERE’S A PREVENTION MENTALITY. WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC TERRORISM, THE REVERSE IS TRUE. UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THE REACTIONS HAPPEN AFTER IT’S TOO LATE, AFTER AN ATTACK HAS TAKEN PLACE. IT’S WHY WE NEED TO FUND THE COUNTER VIOLENCE EXTREMISM PROGRAM THAT’S BEEN SLASHED ALMOST TO ZERO UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION.>>SO YOUR VIEW, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO STOP THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE BEFORE IT HAPPENS?>>YES, SO THE DNA OF VIOLENT EXTREMISTS IS VERY MUCH THE SAME. I CALL IT WHITE ISIS, ANGRY, LONELY MAN DISASSOCIATED FROM SOCIETY WHO BECAME RADICALIZED ONLINE, THEY THINK THEY’RE THE HEROES OF THIS GLOBAL NARRATIVE. IT’S US VERSUS THEM, NO MIDDLE GROUND, AND THEY HAVE TO USE VIOLENCE TO PRESERVE THEIR IDENTITY AND THEIR CULTURE. SOUND FAMILIAR? YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE ISIS OR WHITE SUPREMACISTS. THE PROBLEM IS WE ACTUALLY CONFRONT MUSLIM EXTREMISTS, RIGHT? WE NAME IT, WE CALL IT. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS VERY TOUGH WHEN THERE’S A MUSLIM SUSPECT. HOWEVER, WE DO NOT NAME THE NUMBER ONE DOMESTIC TERROR THREAT IN AMERICA, WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM. NUMBER ONE, YOU’VE GOT TO NAME IT TO CONFRONT IT. NUMBER TWO, YOU NEED TOP DOWN ACTION FROM THE PRESIDENT CONFRONTING THIS THREAT THE WAY HE CONFRONTS UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS OR MEXICAN JUDGES, THEN WE’D BE SAFE. YOU NEED ACTUALLY LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE ARMED TO GO AFTER THEM WITH THE TYPE OF VIGOR THEY GO AFTER MUSLIM EXTREMISTS. THE PROBLEM IS WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LEGISLATION DOMESTICALLY THAT ACTUALLY TARGETS DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. SMIS IT IS DIFFERENCE IN OPINION. SOME PEOPLE SAY WE HAVE ENOUGH LAWS IN THE BOOK, THEY JUST NEED TO BE ENFORCED. OTHER PEOPLE SAY WE NEED FEDERAL LEGISLATION TO GO AFTER DOMESTIC TERRORISM. THE PROBLEM IS THE FOLLOWING. WHEN IT’S A MUSLIM SUSPECT, SEVEN TIMES AS MUCH MEDIA COVERAGE. WHEN IT’S A WHITE SUSPECT, FOUR TIMES AS A MUCH MEDIA COVERAGE. AND FINALLY SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY. IF YOU DEPLATFORM PROPAGANDAS OF HATE, THEY LOSE THEIR TEETH AND POWER. IT’S A COLLECTIVE STRATEGY. ALL OF US NEED TO COME TOGETHER LIKE THE AVENGERS TO TAKE ON THANOS WHICH IS WHITE SUPREMACY.>>AND CONFRONT IT DIRECTLY AND NOT CUT RESOURCES FOR THIS AS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE BUT EXPAND THEM. WE APPRECIATE YOU JOININ THE CONVERSATION THIS MORNING.>>>WELL, THERE ARE GROWING CALLS HERE IN EL PASO FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP NOT TO VISIT THE SCENE OF THIS HORRIBLE CRIME. SOME SAY HE MAY CAUSE A DISTRACTION, HE MAY INFLAME DIVISIONS HERE. BUT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HERE, HE>>>WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS THIS MORNING. CNN HAS CONFIRMED THAT PULITZER AND NOBEL PRIZE WINNING NOVELIST TONY MORRISON HAS DIED AT THE AGE OF 88 ACCORDING TO HER PUBLISHER. CNN STEPHANIE ELUM HAS MORE ON HER STORY LIFE AND CAREER.>>Reporter: TONI MORRISON, ONE OF THE WORLDS MOST CELEBRATED WRITERS.>>THE POINT OF WRITING IS TO TAKE WHAT’S COLLIN AND ESTRANGE IT, MAKE IT NEW AGAIN. AND TO TAKE WHAT’S STRANGE AND FAMILIARIZE IT.>>Reporter: BORN CHLOE ANTHONY WOLFORD IN 1931 MORRISON HAD AN INTEREST IN STORY TELLING AT A VERY YOUNG AGE. HER FATHER OFTEN TOLD HER AFRICAN-AMERICAN FOLK TAILS SOMETHING SHE WOULD LATER WEAVE IN HER WORK. SHE BEGAN TEACHING AT THE HEIGHT OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. IT WAS THEN CHLOE BECAME KNOWN AS TONI MORRISON. TONI A NICKNAME AND MORRISON THE LAST NAME OF HER EX-HUSBAND. DURING HER TIME TEACHING SHE BEGAN SHARING STORIES WITH A CAMPUS WRITING GROUP. ONE OF THOSE STORIES BECAME HER FIRST BOOK, “THE BLUEST EYE.” THE NOVEL WAS PRAISED FOR ITS IN-DEPTH LOOK AT RACE AND AMERICAN BEAUTY STANDARDS BUT CRITICIZED FOR ITS EXPLICIT NATURE. MORRISON BECAME MORE WIDELY KNOWN IP1977 WITH “SONG OF SOLOMON,” THE FIRST WRITTEN BY AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN IN NEARLY 40 YEARS. MORRISON BECAME KNOWN FOR CHARACTERS WHO CHALLENGED VIEWS ON RACE AND GENDER.>>I DON’T DESCRIBE ANY OF MY CHARACTERS, A LITTLE BIT, TALL, SHORT, BUT NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE AND THE REASON IS DELIBERATE. BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO DO THAT.>>Reporter: NO NOVEL HAD GREATER IMPACT THAN “BELOVED.” LOOSELY BASED ON THE IT TRUE STORY OF A RUN AWAY SLAVE THE BOOK WON A PULITZER PRIZE IN 1988. A DECADE LATER OPRAH WINFREY TOOK THE STORY TO THE SILVER SCREEN BUT THE BOOK TANKED AT THE BOX OFFICE. IN 1993 SHE BECAME THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO WIN THE NOBEL PRIZE IN LITERATURE. THE SAME YEAR SHE NEARLY LOST IT ALL IN A FIRE ON CHRISTMAS DAY. ONLY A PORTION OF HER MANUSCRIPTS SURVIVED. BUT TRAGEDY STRUCK AGAIN CHRISTMAS OF 2010, HER SON DIED OF PANCREATIC CANCER. THE DEATH WEIGHED HEAVILY ON MORRISON AND SHE DIDN’T WRITE A SENTENCE FOR MONTHS. TONI MORRISON LEFT AN INDELIBLE MARK ON LITERATURE SPANNING OVER FIVE DECADES. WHILE PRESENTING HER WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID THIS.>>TONI MORRISON’S PROSE BRINGS US THAT KIND OF MORAL AND EMOTIONAL INTENSITY THAT FEW WRITERS EVER ATTEMPT.>>AND MORRISON DIED LAST NIGHT IN NEW YORK. SHE WAS 88 YEARS OLD. WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK.>>>WELCOME BACK. WE’RE LIVE IN EL PASO, TEXAS, JUST YARDS FROM A CRIME SCENE WHERE 22 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES, TWO DOZEN MORE WERE INJURED. PRESIDENT TRUMP PLANS ON VISITING EL PASO, AS WELL AS DAYTON, OHIO IN THE WAKE OF THESE TWO DEADLY MASS SHOOTINGS IN THE SPAN OF A DOZEN HOURS. BUT SOME TEXAS STATE DEMOCRATS SAY THAT HIS VISIT NOW MAY BE A DISTRACTION WHEN THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON HEALING. ALL OF THIS COMES AS CONGRESS CONSIDERS NEW MEASURES ON GUN LEGISLATION, BUT WILL THEY GO ANYWHERE? HERE WITH ME TO DISCUSS IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE EL PASO REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME THIS MORNING. >>YOU’RE WELCOME. >>AS YOU KNOW, DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS ARE ASKING THE PRESIDENT NOT TO COME NOW. THIS IS A TIME OF HEALING AND IT’S A DIVISIVE TIME. I SPOKE TO A WOMAN THIS MORNING, A RESIDENT OF EL PASO WHO SAID IN HER WORDS, SHE THINKS PEOPLE WILL GO NUTS HERE BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT SOME OF THIS DIVISIVE TALK COMES FROM THE TOP, COMES FROM THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF. YOU SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT’S VISIT. WHY IS THIS A GOOD TIME?>>I DO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT’S VISIT. I THINK IT’S OUTSTANDING THAT HE’S GOING TO BE HERE. I THINK WHAT OCCURRED WAS HORRIFIC AND TERRIBLE AND I THINK THE PRESIDENT BEING HERE, COMING FROM TOP, CLEARLY IS GOING TO HELP WITH PEOPLE HEALING. AND THIS IS A TIME OF HEALING. IT NEEDS TO BE CALM. IT WILL NOT BE DISASTROUS. WHAT I SEE AS DISASTROUS IS THE LOCAL POLITICIANS AND ESCOBAR AND O’ROURKE AND MOODY THAT ARE MAKING THIS A POLITICAL EVENT FOR THEIR BENEFIT. THAT’S DISASTROUS. WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THOUGH, IS WE NEED TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY TIME TO HEAL AND LEAVE POLITICS OUT OF IT. >>AS YOU KNOW, LET’S BE FAIR, THE PRESIDENT HAS OFTEN SAID NASTY THINGS ABOUT MEXICO, PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER. DURING MY TIME HERE WHAT I’VE LEARNED IS HOW INTEGRATED EL PASO IS WITH THE BORDER. PEOPLE ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER. AS YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT HAS USED THE WORD INVASION REPEATEDLY TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE COMING FROM THE SOUTH. HE HAS LAUGHED WHEN PEOPLE AT HIS RALLIES TALKED ABOUT SHOOTING PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER. WITH, IT APPEARS, A PERCEPTION THAT THIS IS POLITICALLY BENEFICIAL TO HIM. FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, A MAN OF EL PASO WHO LOVES THIS TOWN, HAS THE PRESIDENT’S RHETORIC BEEN HELPFUL OR HURTFUL TO THIS PROBLEM?>>I LIKE THIS TOWN. IT’S A GREAT TOWN. I CHOSE TO COME BACK TO THIS TOWN AFTER LIVING IN CHILE AND MEXICO CITY. I’M NOT FROM HERE ORIGINALLY, BUT WE GOT TO LIKE IT TREM EM DISLY. THE RECEIPT RIS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS PICKED OUT IN PIECES. HE’S TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE ILLEGALLY. HE WAS SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT THAT WE HAVE A BORDER PROBLEM AND CALLED IT A CRISIS, WHICH IT WAS. AND IT TOOK OUR LOCAL POLITICIANS, AND NOT JUST LOCAL BUT NATIONAL, IT TOOK THEM A YEAR, TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY RECOGNIZED WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE. >>ARE YOU CONCERNED WHEN THE SHOOTER WHO CAME HERE — THE SHOOTER AT THIS WALMART WAS NOT FROM EL PASO. HE CAME HERE SPECIFICALLY TO SHOOT MEXICANS AND IN HIS MANIFESTO HE REPEATED WORDS USED BY THE PRESIDENT. AREN’T THE PRESIDENT’S WORDS POWERFUL?>>ALL WORDS WITH POWERFUL. HIS MANIFESTO IS POWERFUL. THE FACT THAT HE CAME HERE SAYS A LOT. THAT IS NOT EL PASO. WE TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND IT’S BEEN IN THE PRESS ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE REQUEST FOR WATER WAS OVERWHELMING, THE REQUEST FOR BLOOD, THEY HAD TO SEND PEOPLE AWAY. THAT IS EL PASO. WE TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, I WAS EMOTIONAL AND I WAS UPSET. BECAUSE THIS IS EL PASO, AND I DON’T CARE WHO YOU ARE, I DON’T CARE WHAT POLITICAL PARTY YOU BELONG TO. WE ARE A MINORITY IN THIS COUNTY. IT DOESN’T MATTER TO ME. I’M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HURT AND I WANT TO HELP THEM. >>I FEEL IT AND I’VE MET PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN BOTH PARTIES. I STOOD NEXT TO DEE MARGO, THE MAYOR OF EL PASO. THERE WERE TEARS IN HIS EYES DESCRIBING MEETING THE 2 YEAR OLD WHO LOST HIS PARENTS. I’M JUST ASKING HAS THE PRESIDENT’S RHETORIC HELPED OR HURT? BECAUSE I’VE HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE OF EL PASO IT HAS HURT THEM. WHAT IS YOUR VIEW?>>I THINK THE PRESIDENT’S POINTS ARE GOOD POINTS. THE WORDS HE USED ARE NOT IN MY MIND WHAT SHOULD BE APPROPRIATE. WE ALL COMMUNICATE DIFFERENTLY. HE GOT RID OF PC, POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND THAT WAS GOOD. SOME OF IT HAS GONE EXTREME AND PEOPLE HAVE OPENED UP AND SAID WHAT THEY REALLY FEEL. BEFORE IF YOU WERE TO CRITICIZED OUR PREVIOUS PRESIDENT, IMMEDIATELY YOU WERE A RACE IST, BUT THAT WAS NEVER ADDRESSED LIKE TODAY. SO I DON’T THINK WHAT’S CHANGED IN AS SIGNIFICANT AS WE MAKE IT BELIEVED, IT’S JUST BECAUSE WE’VE GOT A WHITE ANG LOW SAXON MALE SAYING THINGS VERSUS A BLACK MAN SAYING THINGS IN THE PAST. >>YOU WISH THE PRESIDENT’S WORDS WOULD BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER MORE AS OPPOSED TO HIGHLIGHT THE DIVISIONS?>>I’M SAYING I WOULD PRESENT THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND I THINK IT’S THE PRESIDENT’S RESPONSIBILITY TO REPRESENT THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE, AND I THINK HIS GOAL HAS BEEN TO IDENTIFY WHAT HE NEEDS TO BE DOING — IDENTIFY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HE’S DOING IT. THAT DOESN’T MEAN HIS RHETORIC IN MY MIND IS ALWAYS WHAT IT SHOULD BE. I WOULD CHANGE IT, BUT THAT’S MY OPINION. >>WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE ALSO EMPATHIZE WITH WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY IS GOING THROUGH. PLEASE KEEP IN TOUCH WITH US SO WE KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP. >>THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. >>HE’S WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HERE IN EL PASO. RIGHT NOW, LAWMAKERS IN WASHINGTON, THEY’RE ON A SUMMER BREAK. DO THEY NEED TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS GUN VIOLENCE? WILL IT BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME? WILL ANYTHING HAPPEN? I’M GOING TO SPEAK TO ONE OF THE TOP DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE TO ASK HOW THEY AIM TO CHANGE THE POLITICAL DYNAMIC.>>>GOOD MORNING TO YOU. I’M JIM SCIUTTO. POPPY HARLOW IS OFF TODAY. I’M HERE IN EL PASO, A COMMUNITY REELING FROM THE DEATHS OF 22 PEOPLE. TWO MORE DIED IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, AND NOW THE CITY IS PREPARING FOR WHAT IS BECOMING A POLAR RISING VISIT HERE FROM PUMP. THE WOUNDS ARE STILL FRESH, EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL HERE. THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS THE FOCUS OF THE PRESIDENT’S TRIP TOMORROW IS CONDOLENCES AND RESOURCES, GETTING RESOURCES TO THIS COMMUNITY. TO HEAR FROM MAYORS AND SURVIVORS OF THE SHOOTING AS WELL. BUT IT THREATENS TO DIVIDE THIS BORDER CITY ALONG POLITICAL LINES, JUST AS PEOPLE HERE TO TRYING TO HEAL THOSE WOUNDS. LOCAL DEMOCRATS IN TEXAS ARE DEMANDING THE PRESIDENT CANCEL THE TRIP. THEY SAY NOW IS NOT THE TIME. PRESIDENT TRUMP, WE SHOULD MENTION, WILL ALSO VISIT DAYTON, OHIO TOMORROW. THAT’S WHERE NINE PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN A SECOND WEEKEND SHOOTING, JUST 13 HOURS AFTER THE FIRST ONE HERE IN EL PASO. WE’RE JUST YARDS FROM THE CRIME SCENE, IN FACT. LET’S GO STRAIGHT TO THE WHITE HOUSE. CNN’S KATILAN COLLINS. THE WHITE HOUSE IS CERTAINLY AWARE OF THE DIVISIVENESS THAT THIS IS CAUSING IN SOME OF THE LOCALES, MANY PEOPLE PROTESTING HIS COMING VISIT. WHAT IS HIS AIM IS VISITING BOTH EL PASO AND DAYTON TOMORROW?>>WELL, OFFICIALS ARE PUSHING BACK ON THAT CRITICISM BACK HERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE, BECAUSE THEY SAY THE PRESIDENT WILL BE SIMILARLY CRITICIZED IF HE DIDN’T MAKE A VISIT TO WHERE THESE MASS SHOOTINGS HAVE OCCURRED. AND OF COURSE THE PRESIDENT IS NOT GOING TO BE RECEIVING THIS ACROSS THE BOARD WELCOME THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY EXPECT A PRESIDENT TO RECEIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN HE’S VISITING SOMEWHERE THAT HAD MASS SHOOTINGS. BUT HE IS GOING TO BE LEAVING WASHINGTON HOME, GOING TO EL PASO AND THEN GOING ON TO DAYTON. BUT THAT COMES, AS YOU’VE SEEN SEVERAL OF THOSE LOCAL OFFICIALS FROM THE AREA PUSHED BACK AND URGED THE PRESIDENT NOT TO COME. INCLUDING BETO O’ROURKE, WHO SAYS THAT THE PRESIDENT’S RHETORIC HAS CONTRIBUTED TO WHAT WE SAW HAPPEN IN EL PASO AT THAT WALMART ON SATURDAY, DRAWING A DIRECT LINE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. BUT STILL, DESPITE THAT PUSHBACK FROM THOSE LOCAL OFFICIALS AND FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, THE EL PASO MAYOR SAYS THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO COME AND HE IS GOING TO MEET WITH HIM DESPITE THE CRITICISM.>>THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL VISIT AS HE HAD BEFORE. THE PRESIDENT IS COMING OUT AND I WILL MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT AND I GUESS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOTS OF TIME ON THEIR HANDS, I’LL DEAL WITH THEIR EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS.>>SO HE’S SAYING IN HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY, HE IS GOING TO MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT. HE DID SAY HE WILL PUSH BACK IF THE PRESIDENT MAKES ANY DISPARAGING COMMENTS. THAT’S WHAT DEE MARGO SAID YESTERDAY DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE. YOU’LL REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THE PRESIDENT WAS IN EL PASO WAS BACK IN FEBRUARY WHEN HE AND BETO O’ROURKE HAD THOSE ESSENTIALLY DUALING RALLIES AS BETO O’ROURKE WAS PUSHING AGAINST WHAT THE PRESIDENT WAS DESCRIBING EL PASO WAS, TALKING ABOUT CRIME AND THE NEED FOR A BORDER WALL. IT WILL BE A VERY DIFFERENT VISIT TOMORROW, BUT YOU’RE STILL GOING TO SEE THE CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.>>KATILAN COLLINS AT THE WHITE HOUSE. THANKS VERY MUCH. JOINING ME NOW IS DAVID STOUT. HE IS THE HEAD OF THE EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER DEMOCRAT HERE. YOU HAVE BEEN PUBLIC IN YOUR OPPOSITION TO THE PRESIDENT’S VISIT HERE TOMORROW. TELL US WHY.>>WE STILL HAVE A GAPING WOUND IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD JUST BE THROWING SALT INTO THAT WOUND. AS WE’VE HEARD, OUR PRESIDENT HAS MANY TIMES DISPARAGED, VILIFIED, DEMON NIEZED THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND HE HAS TWEETED MORE THAN 2,000 TIMES ABOUT THIS SO-CALLED INVASION. HE HAS QUESTIONED THE CREDIBILITY OF A MEXICAN JUDGE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT HE’S MEXICAN. AND HE HAS LAUGHED AT — THINKING THAT IT’S A JOKE WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT SHOOTING IMMIGRANTS. REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE ON SATURDAY, I DON’T KNOW WHY WE WOULD WANT PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BE HERE WHEN THIS IS A TYPE OF

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