Charlamagne & Trevor Noah Ch1: Immigration, Politics & U.S. Media Influence | Emerging Hollywood


(smooth music) – Hollywood is being rebuilt by artists not afraid to
disrupt the status quo, telling fresh stories, and bringing to life characters who, until now, have been
confined to the margins. This is Emerging Hollywood. (claps)
Peace to the planet. I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God, and the man I’m with today
needs no introduction. He’s a New York Times best-selling author, host of The Daily Show. My man, Trevor Noah. (hands slap)
– Trev. – What up, my dude?
– What’s happening, brother? – How are you?
– Now, as an immigrant, do you feel responsible to
advocate for other immigrants through your comedy?
– Oh, that’s an interesting question. Americans use the term
immigrant so broadly. It’s interchangeable. When people say immigrant in America, a lot of the time, what
they’re talking about is a person who comes here from Mexico. (laughs) You know?
– Yeah. – People don’t think of Chris
Hemsworth as an immigrant. So when people say immigrant in America, I’ve noticed that the terminology specifically refers to
a certain type of person who many people perceive
having a certain backstory and journey and purpose in America. But I look at everyone. Justin Bieber’s an immigrant. You know what I mean? – [Charlamagne] Drake. – [Trevor] Drake is an immigrant, exactly. So I don’t think I’ve ever
thought of it in that way. What I do think about when
I’m creating my comedy is trying to connect to the most honest and human experience. I think, as people, we have a tendency to feel when it applies to
us or people close to us and as soon as we’re out of the danger or we’re in the shade,
then we start going like, oh, I don’t know about those people. I don’t know about those people. And so, for me, what I’m
constantly trying to do is go, are we having
an honest conversation about these people, with regards to how America treats them? And I think that’s what
I’m always trying to do, and it’s changed in my life,
because I learn things. I haven’t always held
the views that I’ve held. I haven’t always been informed, and I think that’s what
being informed is about is like learning and unlearning, which is even harder to do. – Yeah, I feel like I’m
doing more unlearning as I get older, you know what I’m saying? – Which is a good thing, ’cause most people do
it the other way around. – Yeah, they hold onto just their beliefs that they’ve had their whole life. – Most people are like, I’m tired. (Charlamagne Tha God laughs) I’m tired of learning new shit. I’m done. – But what was the influence of media in your childhood like? How did that shape your perspective? – I think it depends on what media. American media played a big role in defining how I saw the world. You know, I watched
American sitcoms growing up, and what was weird in South Africa was we had all of the shows coalesced, so I didn’t know that they
were from different networks or they appealed to different groups, so for me, Sister Sister was the same as Murder, She Wrote. They were all in–
– (Charlamagne) Really? – [Trevor] the same vein. Yeah, like it was in the same space. Do you get what I’m saying? I wasn’t like, oh, this is
for a certain type of viewer and that’s for a certain type of viewer. – Oh, it was all American to you. – It was just like, yeah,
it was just American TV. When I used to watch American TV, I genuinely thought the
population in America was 50% black, 50% white because of how we had the shows. I was just like, yeah,
this is how this world is. The black people have houses
where they go upstairs. I was like, man, they’re
balling in America. Good times. – No, you never saw Good Times. (Trevor laughs) That’s what that was. – (laughs) I never saw Good Times. – Now, how did growing up in South Africa shape the way you view American politics? – What’s interesting about
South African politics is that, in many ways, it has
echoes of American politics. Specifically with
regards to our histories. We both share histories where black people have been oppressed just because of the color of their skin. We both have histories where
black people have had to fight just to be considered equal. We also both have histories and presents where black people are now going, hey, freedom was the
beginning of the journey. Now we need to find a way to overcome all of the implicit obstacles that have been placed in our way. So in many ways, those
things are very similar across countries. What has been different for me is South Africa was a minority that was oppressing a majority where in America, it was the opposite. And so in South Africa,
once power shifted, you had a world where the black government forced people to acknowledge
what had happened. It feels like Americans
just ended and moved on. It was very much like,
(blathers) black people can vote. Now it’s done. (blathers) all right,
black people, you can, yeah, yeah, black president. It’s over now, right? Let’s move on, let’s move on. Whereas we had to have painful
and specific conversations about what was done to
black people in our country and I think that stuck
with a lot of people and that created an honest base for the country to grow from. It’s not easy, and it
didn’t fix everything, but I do think it fertilized the soil so that the roots of honesty
could dig into the ground. And I’ve noticed a lack
of that in America, and it’s because of just the
way people have been educated. A lot of people are like,
what are you talking about? What do you mean, redlining? What do you mean? What are you talking about? And you’re like, you don’t know this? You don’t know how black people weren’t able to live in certain areas? You don’t know that black people weren’t given access to home loans? You don’t know that black people weren’t given access to credit, which is how you grow
your wealth in America? You don’t know these things? And people genuinely don’t know, and so then you understand
if they don’t know that, it can affect how they perceive a problem as opposed to them going, yeah, I see why you’re in this position. It’s them going, clearly
you’re lazy, and I’m not. And so those are the biggest things, and that’s what shaped, I
think, how I see the politics. You know, South Africa
has a similar history, but it’s helped me understand why there’s some of the gridlocking
conversations in America. (smooth music)

Maurice Vega

100 Responses

  1. I would like for blacks to acknowledge that a lot of white people have all these same issues. Irish were treated the same the Asians were literally thrown into internment camps, the Italians why do you think the mob was started. Only difference these all trusted their own people and all grew together and bought up areas slowly. Black people dont trust black people and they don’t help eachother

  2. 4:09 What the fuck does he want? Also no it wasn't just that, there was a lot of systematic racism that was abolished such as jim crow laws point out real things and we will back it up. What world does this guy live in? He acts like he was there, or he's currently being oppressed. Mother fucker you're an immigrant that's a host of a tv show WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT!? If you want to talk about redlining and real issues talk about it on your show rather than making dumb ass jokes about trump all the time.

  3. For South Africa, our redlining was the industrial parks…most of our factories are near where black people live…close to the source of labour n after that were the suburbs n central business districts were/are miles away from townships, n so high level jobs were kept away from us n still are

  4. I love to join in on anything that has to do with the voice for the people but aren't y'all getting paid by the same machine? Even these so-called woke rappers and other activist, you're getting paid by the same people you want us to take a stand against so what does that mean?

  5. Oh yay, 2 ignorant racist at once! Please educate me to think only the way you want me to 😂😂😂😂

  6. Charlemagne the god (ironic this black man defies a white pagan imperialist)….and his “black privilege”. What privilege? Even he has bosses and works a 9-5.

    As to suggest that black ppl in USA have privilege is ridiculous and dangerous. Whites own 98% of the land in the US. And 82% of the world’s richest storied 1% are white. There are more black men in prison in the US than all the women in the world in prison. Avg black household has less than $2K of wealth, compared to $350K for whites.

    Someone explain to me what Black privilege is.

  7. It's always bad news when a guy had gone to jail and call himself self proclaimed "God" in his name. Other exxagerated self importance are names such as "King" "Queen" "Prince" or anything that you're not. That name "Charlatan tha Gayd" had me LMAO!!!

  8. Charlatan looking, listening, pondering, questioning, mesmerizing, but couldn't understand a thing Trevor is talking about. Not too many big words, Trevor! Don't hurt another brotha too bad with many big words. Like Chris Rock said, " N*** to books are like Superman to Kryptonite"

  9. But US has a culture in which willful ignorance is perceived as prestigious IN THE US ONLY; as if it is cool to be ignorant of their own past. Everyone else in the world is aware of true US history except US people only.

  10. This episode needed to be longer. How can you have CHARLAMAGNE and TREVOR NOAH in a conversation for only 6 minutes??. We need more!!!

  11. The problem is illegal immigrants not legal immigrants. Drake and all them other entertainers he named are not illegal

  12. I am a fed up – being forced to feel guilty – just because I was born as a white woman!
    Enough of this kind of sheet, ok!

  13. Charl…got scooped on media history. One channel streaming multiple programs to blended audience. That was media tv and radio. ONE CHANNEL with diverse shows. It got everybody to experience each other. I think the blending of the pool of music for example factored into the civil rights era. It created the fabric of acceptance, impact because the music was shared first. Now we separate and struggle to find ways to represent and identify. The ideas on post civil rights struggle trevor shared are interesting, not new. The impact should be more fully explored. He left out the response factor. Not what happens to you but how you respond? I heard Blacks in America before 1950' s earned more advanced degrees?? Doesn't mean civil rights was a negative but are we looking at an unintended legacy of price to gain civil right's; bitter fight and tragic cost of life? What is the legacy of black leadership in S.A. post Mandela's presidency?

  14. I love how insightful NT is..He's spot on in his take on how we compartmentalize immigrants according to their skin tone and geographic location..in a country were we are still fighting against colorism, I imagine that's also something he doesn't see a lot of in S. Africa, another evil legacy passed on to us all from slavery..he is sooo hot! Can I hook you up with my little sister, she needs a good man?😉😁😎

  15. Nobody has a problem with immigrants. People don't like illegal immigrants that come over by the millions and take over communities.

  16. Only dislike because Charlamagne Tha God is a piece of s*** he remembers New York what happened to him he talks crap hey hater

  17. Often times the most inciteful views of a country come from someone who is not native to that country.

  18. Trevor Noah is so intelligent and articulate, if he didn't have a tv show already id be petitioning for him to get one

  19. Man when he was talking about white people not knowing about red lining and all of that i damn near cried…u remember arguing with white people in high school about stuff like that…they really dont know or care to im most cases

  20. america does not call white skin immigrants so they numbers can be higher but its not working because whites are decreasing in population all over the globe, LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELVES!!!!

  21. Although times are hard God is still allowing the truth to be unravelled regarding the ONLY face of terrorism. I have been reprogrammed. THE TRUTH does make you free.

  22. The turning point was when CTG asks about politics. What an poignant few sentences, especially the breakdown: similar because of history both have been oppressed, fight to be equal and freedom was the beginning of the journey. Difference, South Africa was the minority and forced to recognize what was going on. Where as black Americans were satisfied with what they were told or given. It was a polite but accurate diss.

  23. 4:58 Noah hit it on the nail when he spoke of how the many, many Americans are SOOO lost when it comes to oppression, due to the traditional blinding of the mind (as far as american education goes) "what are you talking about, what do you mean REDLINING?'' It hits home, because when I mention, in detail, these things to white folks, their faces look as puzzled as ever.

  24. Am keep watching. Am loving this awesome talk… #Trevor is so right and simply genius… 🤷‍♂️

  25. This is annoying!!! Why do I have to click on 3 different parts. The formate should be a FULL interview. 🤦🏾‍♀️

  26. "Chapter 1 of 3 tackles American immigration" Really? There was no discourse regarding the often overlooked discrepancy of legal and illegal immigration. This important distinction must be established prior to delving into the overwhelming complexity of immigration in the United States, especially when referring to the differences between American expats, people who have obtained citizenship through naturalization and individuals arriving in this country illegally across the Southern Border.

  27. Very interesting point Trevor brought up about having a real conversation about the atrocities done to black people in this country.

  28. Why does everyone keep saying how smart Trevor is/sounds. What kind of circles do y’all hang with? He sounds average.

  29. I would like you to address “What is done to black people in America” – placing abortion clinics, pawn shops and liquor stores in the most congested areas that are predominantly black. More black babies killed, than born. Your thoughts?

  30. Wow,Trevor Sadly I’m just learning about all of it from slavery stolen things just all of it.I like you and charlangn

  31. As an African student who loves Literature,Theatre and History it always amazed and mesmerized me how spacious these American shows and books were.A big admiration just like Trev says,because its a free world and you gotta make who you are out if yourself. But I recently understood even in developed America,in 2019,black people are still fighting for independence.History belongs to those who hold their own pen tho.Good work Trevor. We love you!

  32. We must first acknowledge the difference and then began to learn and understand them…immigrant vs emigrant.

  33. I am a Youtuber and Life coach in the USA from Kenya. I have realized my American dream counseling families and youth on education and life skills. My upbringing was exactly like Trevor Noah. I love this perspective because our story is rarely told. Africa is all about poverty which is not TRUE.

  34. This is what the culture needs educated men from minorities. This right here is what they don’t want, they don’t want us to know the difference between the fact and the stereotypes. America has too many close minded people.

  35. Reparations is due ;
    In tons of ways :
    Look at men of color bald head
    [ a requirement to high paying positions ]
    or Flooding hair chemicals to ruin women of color hair …
    in both incidents : wanting them to feel more lovely / powerful

  36. Oh, but white people/ rich people are “expats”. They prefer if you are both. Mind you, it also takes 3 generations to not have immigration background. It is easier to integrate, when you are rich and white and even if you speak multiple/other languages, it’s a mark of being “cultivated” rather than anything else. As a white/ rich person you never have to justify where you go and why.

  37. Reject corrupt liar donald trump term immigrant as Mexican rapist, bad uneducated immigrant.
    Corrupt trump is all about his wealth, making a fortune for himself taking advantage & screwing other people.

  38. Sorry but there's just something ironic about two black millionaires talking about oppression. Especially an immigrant that literally came from rags to riches solely on his talent. Which is only available in free market capitalist society such as ours.

  39. Thank goodness we have people coming from crappy countries to America to instruct us as to how to live.

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