An Epic Problem (The Jimquisition)

(Jim grunting) – I have no joke planned for these today, I just saw ’em in the studio and thought, “Yeah, puttin’ those on.” (claws thudding) ♪ Born different ♪ ♪ Born innocent ♪ ♪ Born perfect ♪ ♪ I’m not like you, I’m a ♪ ♪ Born lover ♪ ♪ Born livid ♪ ♪ And I know I’m, I’m
not like you, I was ♪ ♪ Born clever ♪ ♪ Born knowledgeable ♪ ♪ Born better than ♪ – You know folks, I find myself
with an interesting dilemma. On the last video I did in this series, I made a joke about
desperately begging for people to like and subscribe on the video. The thing is, then actually did see a significant uptick in subscribers. So the thing is that begging
for likes and subscribes is pathetic and worth making a joke about, except it legitimately really does work. So please like and
subscribe, please! (sobbing) Please! I’ve got crab gloves on! Oh, I left this light on. It should be fine. (light clicking) I mean, it fucks with
continuity turnin’ it off. Anyway, we’re going to have
ourselves a grown up discussion about the Epic Games Store, a subject that’s gotten very
touchy, a little bit emotional, and some might say just
a touch ridiculous, but we’re gonna try regardless to discuss this in an adult manner. Now, I’m gonna say some things that the Epic haters are
gonna really, really like, I’m gonna say a couple things that they may not appreciate so much, but I urge you all to
take on board what I say, hear me out and come to a
sensible, calm, rational (Jim laughing) That ain’t gonna fuckin’ happen! It’s no secret by now
that the conversation around the Epic Games Store has
gotten really fucking nasty! I mean really fucking nasty. When the Epic Games Store started it all seemed like a good idea, initially, and theoretically it still is. Epic had a major market
leverage with “Fortnite” and was rolling in Tencent money, the digital storefront it was
positioning itself against was in dire need of real competition. The stage was set for
something interesting, I mean Steam was a mess of a storefront with an oversaturation of garbage, a number of genuinely hateful communities, and such a crowded storefront
that many good indie games were dying on the vine. However, it soon became clear that Epic wasn’t interested in merely competing, it was out to throttle its opponents by throwing huge stacks of cash around and buying up exclusivity deals with games both large and small. It did so in some pretty shitty ways, too, with major games like “Metro Exodus” disappearing from Steam less
than a month after launch and a number of Kickstarter
projects leaving their backers feeling cold after promising Steam keys that would no longer be available. Epic has since said that it will continue to pursue exclusives regardless of the games’ prior status or promises. Now overall I have a big problem with Epic Games as a company. Their treatment of
workers has been abusive with unreasonable perpetual crunch periods resulting from the perpetual
service nature of “Fortnite”. Tencent having so much
control and influence over the industry is
something I never like to see any one single company have, Disney! And Epic’s exclusivity spending spree has been a capitalistic
juggernaut of bullshit that demonstrates how cash can be used to shortcut one’s way onto the
path of a de facto monopoly, and that’s clearly what they want. Epic’s Tim Sweeney talks a big game about merely wanting Steam to offer the same generous revenue split with developers that they do, but the stated goal
makes no business sense. You do not get into a market with the aim of making a rival copy your
biggest competitive advantage and subsequently disarm
your biggest weapon. Epic’s tactic of aggressively
pursuing exclusives, from indies to so-called AAA games, is a power play that attempts
to starve the market of goods and turn itself into the sole distributor. However mad you are at the
latest game going exclusive, it’s ultimately not the fault
of the game or its developer. Epic Games is the problem with Epic Games. Epic Games and the economic
system it operates in allowing and encouraging businesses to behave the way it’s been behaving. And I really feel we need
to refocus ourselves here because if you do have an issue with the way Epic’s been doing business, you ultimately have an issue
with the unchecked capitalism, or ca-triple-apitalism as we call it here, that’s allowed all this to happen. In this market, Epic is
free to spend its money and swallow up games by the bucketload. In this market, Epic is free to gain a stranglehold grip on
PC digital distribution. In this market, Epic is
free to pretty much do whatever the hell it wants,
provided it has the money to pick up the tab, which it does. It’s got lots of money, lots of a capital. Sadly, and we’ve got to address this, leveling criticism an
Epic has gotten harder because bad actors have kind
of ruined it for everyone. We’re at a point where
criticizing the Epic Store gets one tarred with the same brush as complete imbeciles
flinging their shit around incoherently just to dogpile
in on a hot controversy. Anyone with criticism of the Epic Store is now lumped in with caterwauling idiots, and, well, it’s really
easy for them to do that because there are so
many caterwauling idiots. Because the internet is the internet and game discussions particularly tend to get just plain
horrible with enough time. The subject of the Epic Store has turned thoroughly poisonous and the outrage around Epic Games has officially gotten out of control. The breaking point for
this has been “Ooblets”, a game that signed an
exclusivity deal with Epic resulting in the developer Glumberland getting bombarded with hate
speech, harassment, and threats. Now I had issues with the way Glumberland announced the deal, dismissing what I feel
are some genuine concerns about Epic’s business practices, but a video I’d published on the matter is currently set to private after seeing just how fucking vile the
attacks on the team had gotten, because I don’t wanna be
even indirectly contributing to the kind of horror show displayed here. And if you’re offended
that I censored myself, well, sorry but I’m not gonna accept blame for taking it down. I want no part of that bullshit. Blame the abusers, I want
no part of that toxic shite. Nobody deserves what that team got. Physical threats, hate speech
of pretty much every stripe, outright lies and sheer gibbering hatred made up thousands of
messages sent their way, and, folks, that’s just
not fucking helpful, is it? Anyone who did that really
fucked things up for everyone because once we get to the point where developers are
receiving that kind of vomit it poisons the well, totally overshadows any illegitimate critique
of Epic there might be and paints any problem people
might have with the store as coming from a group of
screaming maladjusted morons thanks to the screaming
maladjusted morons. And Epic Games knows it, too, it played up to the
situation pretty effectively, promising to support developers in future and help them cope with abuse, which is what it should
be doing, absolutely, but one can’t deny the corporation also walked away from this problem with armfuls of positive PR for itself and a lot of games media headlines, and the abusers handed
Epic that publicity. Even if you’re a heartless fuck who doesn’t care about
people being abused, then I will appeal to your
pragmatism at the very least. Harassing and threatening developers will not get you what you want, it will get you the opposite,
and also you’re a dick. As I said when a “Wolfenstein”
level designer was harassed off Twitter over
“Youngblood’s” microtransactions, it makes their job of criticism
so much fucking harder when idiots spill their monstrous rhetoric at any accessible target they can find. It taints the whole
debate, jerks the spotlight violently away from credible discussion, and unfairly sets the sights
on ground-level individuals who are simply not the goddamn problem! If any abusers out there genuinely care about the subject they’re
acting so mad about and not just attacking
for the sheer fun of it, then they’re scoring an own
goal every time they decide to throw their anger at
completely the wrong people. This is especially worth remembering when it comes to indie developers. Look, you’ve gotta give them some slack! It’s a dog-eat-dog horror show out there in game development! I’ll say what I’ve said every single time I’ve talked about this: I do not blame any one
indie developer whatsoever for taking the Epic exclusivity deal. Barring extra circumstances,
like crowdfunding promises or last-minute changes
that fuck with pre-orders, I think smaller games
need your understanding. They’re not big AAA publishers, they’re not acting out of a
malice or bloody-minded greed, they’re just trying to
survive like the rest of us. Be the game “Ooblets”,
“Shakedown: Hawaii”, “Hades”, whatever, there are very
understandable reasons to want to sign with Epic. The revenue split is
unquestionably generous, with Epic only taking 12% of the cut as opposed to Steam’s 33%, and for any small studio
that’s hard to pass up. Plus, any struggling small
developer is gonna benefit from the upfront exclusivity
cash that often ensures a game’s financial success
regardless of sales. I think that’s a deal a lot
of you watching out there would find fuckin’ tempting! On top of that, the Epic Store is not full of asset flips that bury their release or games about school shootings
and killing gay people that the algorithm might
associate genuine games with. – A lot of indie games
have struggled on Steam. The market is so crowded
and the lack of oversight has led to the underhanded
exploitation of many features that can push down quality work and elevate bad actors peddling what Valve itself calls fake games. But to bring this back to reminding you what the real problem is, there’s a bit of a sinister side to
indies taking the deal, and the blame is with,
well, take a wild guess. Stories are starting to
circulate that Epic Games itself is courteously railroading developers into going exclusive with them or not having a shot on
the storefront at all. Recently the developer of “DARQ” revealed that Epic approached them about
taking an exclusivity deal and, when refused, said it couldn’t let “DARQ” be sold as
a non-exclusive game. “I felt like going for an exclusivity deal “would show that my word means nothing “as I had just promised the
game would launch on Steam. “I thought it was a bad idea
to disappoint all those people “and prove to the world that
my announcements mean nothing. “Epic made it clear that they “reached out to me with
an exclusivity deal. “I politely turned them down “before we had a chance to discuss “any details, money offered, et cetera. “I asked them if they would be willing “to sell ‘DARQ’ non-exclusively “and they explained at this point in time “it’s not something they can do.” This ain’t the first time it’s happened. “SkateBIRD” was turned down by Epic when it wouldn’t pledge its fealty, with the developer saying: “Epic doesn’t want SkateBIRD, “they say they’re focusing on exclusives “and SkateBIRD promised Steam keys “in its Kickstarter, therefore nah.” Epic is actively pursuing
a number of indie titles that show significant pre-launch interest but Epic’s own interest
is purely conditional. It’s eager to work with small companies only if it can be the
sole seller of their work, which says a lot, I feel, especially for a company that
claims it’s doing all this for the betterment of the PC market. That’s been Tim Sweeney’s whole angle. What this says is that
the Epic Games Store is about disrupting the market more than being a decent storefront for customers and game purveyors alike, that its snapping up games
simply to have them as exclusives rather than offer them to shoppers at all, that it only cares about indie games if it can use those indie
games to hurt its competition and feed into that disruption. Epic knows full well who
has the power in the dynamic between it and a tiny indie company and it’s exploiting that
power to the fullest. And if you’ve ever read about the way Epic is said to treat its workers, exploiting power dynamics
for selfish gains is something Epic’s very,
very well-versed in. If you’re a small-time dev who wants and needs that safety
net of success Epic offers, if you’d like the extra security that a platform like Steam can’t offer, well, Epic can offer it to you, but only if you cut Steam
out of the equation entirely. Some people perceive even
small Studios taking the deal as something motivated by sheer greed, but Epic’s revenue split
isn’t merely attractive bait, it’s being used to effectively strong-arm creators with an ultimatum, an ultimatum that I’m not entirely sure has been given to AAA publishers,
some of whom seem to enjoy being on both the Epic
Store and Steam just fine, and are literally in it for the money because they’re big honking corporations and that’s all they ever care about. Epic is actively putting indie developers into awkward positions,
profiting off them, using them to inflict
damage on the competition, and exploiting the backlash they receive for its own advertising. Doesn’t sound like a corporation that cares about the PC market. And even if it wasn’t doing all that, I’d still understand
indies taking the deal, but the generosity of the deal combined with the railroady
conditional nature of it? Yeah, indies are in a tough position and they don’t deserve the
community dumping all over them. But, again, in the economic system that we here call ca-triple-apitalism, everything Epic’s doing
is just fine and dandy. It’s how businesses get ahead, with brutal, ruthless,
uncaring efficiency. You’re mad about what Epic’s doing? Get mad at a system that ensures the most effective way to complete is to pay for your
competitors’ starvation. This is capitalism unfettered
and it’s at the root of the video game industry’s
many transgressions. Money flows to money, the rich are always
positioned to get richer because the more money you have, the easier it is to get even more. You just use the cash you’ve got to spend everyone else to death. Steam needs competition but
under ca-triple-apitalism, this is what competition looks like. Using bottomless reserves of riches to buy up all the goods and
replace the de facto monopoly by transforming into
the de facto monopoly, a monopoly you’ll keep
until a richer company comes along to replace you. The big fish poaches exclusives
from the little fish. Epic has tons of money
and with tons of money you don’t have to build a quality product, offer a superior experience, or otherwise give
advantages to the end user. You just have to have more
cash than the other fuckers and crush them with it! Anything less than that
would be seen by executives as a waste of time and resources. Why bother being better when being richer gets
you what you want quicker? There’s nothing preventing this and in a market where the only golden rule is to make all of the money
as swiftly as possible and damn the consequences, it’s something that will
just keep happening. Oh. Oh, well that’s a shame. Saved me some money, I guess. Thanks to a lotta the nonsense surrounding controversies
with the Epic Games Store, a lot of people have decided to not take any of it seriously,
but I do still think there are serious concerns
to bring up with Epic, not just as a storefront
owner and a platform holder but as a company overall. There’s a lot about that
business and how it operates that I do not like, do not
appreciate and worry about. I was talking about this
with friend of the show and internet sloth Casey Explosion the other day where she pointed out that because Epic Games is a disruptive force and only really cares about
being a disruptive force, what happens if the Epic Games Store doesn’t work out the way they want it to? We’ve already seen with a lot of the diversified television
streaming channels, a lot of those end up falling apart, the smaller ones, things
like Seeso just disappeared, I think that’s the one. You know, they take these exclusive shows, some of them quite good,
and then just evaporate and you’re often left wondering, well, where is the show gonna go? where is the stuff I
was enjoying gonna go? And in any one of these
services that have splintered back from when we only
had one or two big things, you know, their future is uncertain. And that’s something to worry about, like, there shouldn’t
be one single entity, there should be competition, but when it splinters and
splinters and splinters and goes off in all these
different directions, some of them just aren’t gonna make it and they could take down some
good video games with them and that’s something to also
be concerned about with Epic. The fact that they have
this roadmap of content and they haven’t really met a lot of it, we’re still waiting for crucial elements. I bring this up a lot,
things like a shopping cart. There are many things, many conveniences that other storefronts
have and people have said, “Oh, well, give it time, give it time,” that Steam didn’t work out too well when it first occurred,
when it first appeared, it had so many years to get good. But, by the same token, other storefronts have had that time, that
exact amount of time, to learn from those mistakes. You know, if I brought out a
video game console right now and it didn’t even have HD, I couldn’t point to things
like the Sega Genesis and say, “Well, that
didn’t have HD at the time, “so cut me some slack!” Anyway, I’ve totally
gotten away from my point and I am too sleepy now to get back to it, so I’m literally just gonna end
the video, thank God for me. (energetic triumphant music) (Jim sighing)

Maurice Vega

100 Responses

  1. Hey Jim, As was covered earlier, people can and will fake Discord posts. What are the odds those supposed "Transphobic and sexist remarks" from the Ion Fury team were faked too?

  2. Also…just fyi, I can't BLAME others for you taking down your video, I get why you did it and I'm not going to launch an attack at you, personal or otherwise, for you doing what you think is right but…just like I don't blame YOU for the vile crap some people have directed at the Devs who take the "Epic" deal I can't blame them for you taking your video down.

    No one MAKES anyone do anything and while I agree, that video and it's comments might have made some asshole somewhere feel justified in their assholary…I don't think it CAUSED this attitude nor does taking it down suddenly stop it. These people are waiting for a target to take their anger out on and if it's not your video it'll be another or some comment irl or just a sudden feeling of dislike brought on by nothing.

    This is a case of taking down the video because it makes YOU feel better…which isn't a bad reason seeing as how I wouldn't want you posting things you don't feel good about but…it's a bit silly to try to say it's because of someone or to pretend it has any impact on what assholes do with their time, you're NOT directly OR indirectly doing anything aside from what you did, upload a video with your take (a reasonable and not at all vitriolic take) on the situation.

    I totally support your right to upload or not upload or take down anything you HAVE uploaded especially if you're no longer comfortable with that content or the response it provokes but that's a far cry from pretending it HELPS the situation.

    The entire problem is that people with any DECENCY don't comment out of fear of being lumped in with the crazies, that there is no where to point and say "look, this is the problem, it's not just some hate boner, it's a real issue which can be discussed like adults" and while, again, I support your right to do what you'd like…you blaming yourself, feeling misdirected shame as being part of a community who disagrees with the Epic store's nonsense, and shutting YOURSELF up is exactly the issue. The company can point to this crap and pretend it's ONLY crazies, pretend it's the same group who think EVERYTHING needs hate speech.

    Basically…you taking down your video isn't HURTING anything, it's just a choice, but it certainly isn't HELPING, it's just…doing nothing and feeling like you've made some protest against the asshats of the world while having ACTUALLY done absolutely nothing. Not something I'd blame you for since you have no OBLIGATION to do anything but…not something to be mentioned as if someone drove you this action and like it's actually a meaningful thing. It means no more than the fact i DIDN'T"T make a video…it's just a thing that happened.

  3. I'm just here to watch the show, at this point. I want to see if Epic's huge gambles work out, or they fall flat because they're so out of touch.

  4. You forgot to tell your audience how the Ooblets devs taunted the gamers! You don't poke the Hornets nest and don't expect retaliation!

  5. u know alot jim but ur deffenetly ignorant to sjw toxicity . Im sure your not gonna take the time to reaserch wether iron fury was in the right or wrong. im sure u saw the title of the article and just beleived it, and ur like , well saved me some money then. even tho sjw make severe accusation over stupid shit as it is. But then again i know ur more on the sjw side anyway. Go woke go broke tho.

  6. Yeah, I dont want to get to the either side of this "war" because one side is epic while other side is mostly consisted of microdick angry toxic mob that straightforward abuses everyone else thinking that will prove their point which makes me sick.

  7. also to not try or buy a game based on political stading, ur own or the developers, is pathetic. thats why ppl say politics have no place in games in the first place. for all u know the game is good. good luck siding with the outrage culture loosers.

  8. I call it the "begger", not beggar, that's any person. Let's define the begger as the bit in the video ("please like, subscribe, comment below"); that like "spare any change?" makes one perform a mandatory cliche of the environment.

  9. Just avoid epic…every one of my friends are avoiding it. But jim Sterling always promoting epic in clever way.( He makes it look like he wants to criticize epic but actually he is doing opposite. Not to mention saying flase things about steam. Fu*king Witcher 1 was major hit due to steam)

  10. Steam is not a Monopoly.. Jim Sterling twisting the fact. You have gog , itch io ( which gives 100% revenue to developer) , origin, discord. Steam is best for a reason. Steam never muscled it's way to the top.

  11. After seeing what epic did to gears with judgement, ya fuck them. Want nothing to do with those shitheads. Ghey only need to take 12% cause they made a killing off a garbage ass game like judgement before selling the ip to the shits at microsoft. That game was full rwtail price, with far less content than gow 3. Same engine n chars despite the previous had well over 20, judgement had 6 n like 9 with preorder bonus'. Seriously, fuck them man. Am.I salty. No im still pissed at their fucking childish behaviour towards the fans. They fuckin made a 1/4 ass efort n sold it for the same price as gears 3 which was full effort. Fuck them, cant say it enough. Fuck them, i want my my money back like meatloaf said. Its the only series i cared about at the time, so ya.. again, fuck them for tryin to take advantage of me n my friends. I knew better they didnt, so i bought it to play it with them. I knew exactly what theybwere doin n i was in high school. Fuck them

  12. I don't know about the implications of this, but the instant you talked about liking and subscribing, I actually remembered to hit the Like button. Maybe those chuckleheads who do it in every video actually have a good point.

  13. Hahaha, knew you'd have something to say about the stupid as fuck Ion Maiden outrage. Wasn't it you, yourself, saying just like, an episode ago about separating stupidity from developers from a product itself?

  14. Remember Jim,YOUR the one that was happy and excited for Epic Games giving Steam competition but now look at what's happen to Epic Games lol and i saw this coming from a fucking mile away since fortnite was shit to begin and was making fucking loads of money and i knew that this shit was gonna happen too

  15. i was excited to play Control next week only to find its epic exclusive which killed all excitement and i just won't buy it so Astral Chain and Man of Medan instead

  16. Wow, this was actually a really well thought out dissection of the Epic Store. Also I hadn't realized they weren't allowing non exclusives on the store, big bummer on that one. I agree that indie developers probably should take the deal for now, but it's such a complicated situation when the backlash is so toxic.

  17. I have to disagree with Jim about blaming indie developers for taking the EGS deal, at least in most of the cases I see them actually taking the EGS money. (Death threats et al are of course uncalled for) Like the Ooblets situation, for example: There are objective reasons to dislike EGS, which they dismiss out of hand or seem wholly ignorant of. They also didn't attempt to connect with fans about the funding situation, essentially implying it would leave them "beholden" to undesirables, nor look into early access on Steam as a means for cash infusion. Instead they buried their morals and took an anti-consumer buyout from a company that has repeatedly exhibited terrible behavior, offers no features, and doesn't care about data security or privacy.
    If you as a developer cannot be assed to care about your playerbase, the ecosystem supporting your game and users, and visibly hold the end user in contempt; then I'm going to hold you in contempt as well and take my money elsewhere.

  18. Is there no possibility that some of this convenient brigading is being paid for? I mean, if I was an amoral corporation with an infinite pockets that's a no-brainer tactic that i'd engage with alongside my social media like-buying.
    EDIT: It only took a little bit of googling to ascertain that brigading someone off social media is a relatively cheap. I'm a minimum-wage worker and I could afford it lol.

  19. Mr. Sterling, I must put in a request that you faux-tweak your nipples with those crab claws in a future video. perhaps in the opening to one of your wrestling matches. has there ever been a human crab wrestler? make i happen!

  20. It's bad we get lumped in with all the idiots flinging vile shit around, but I refuse to be silenced on this. My criticism is not invalidated by morons ostensibly on my side. And I say that Epic's thuggish strong arming of the market is more dangerous than any amount of Steam laziness and should be combated with our wallets.

  21. Epic seems to capitalize on negativity, no pun intended, because it means success for them and money is an excellent shield from morale. That's why in this case the morale issue is relegated onto the developers who will be left to make up embellished justifications of their own should they take the deal.

  22. almost like they work like every other big business and steam and every other big platform. whining because this is competitive? bleh whatevs dude. you had this shit installed for fortnite like everyone else

  23. I hate that usage of "It's something we can't do" because it comes off like somekind of tech or legal issue, which is BS.

  24. Actually, the problem isn't capitalism, instead it's the game buying publics willness to support companies that act in ways which are anti consumer.

    Had Epic released the store in a more complete state, and actually put any effort to making the store consumer friendly I could be more understanding but instead they push out a bare framework of a store (it's not even complete enough to be considered early access) and instead simply throw money at developers, knowing that history has shown that the game buying public will line up for their products, no matter how poorly or how much abuse Epic subjects them to.

    It's sort of the same deal people ignore about Walmart opening in a new area. Walmart doesn't force any smaller stores to shut down, instead what forces these shutdowns is that the consumers, even those who rail against Walmart, stop shopping in the mom & pop stores because they can save a few bucks by going to Walmart.

    We, the Western consumer, have become our own worst enemy and instead of supporting our beliefs and voting with our wallets, we throw our beliefs aside to "save a few bucks," or to make sure we play whatever new title. Then we turn around and blame others for our own choices, be it Walmart, manufactures moving overseas, Epic or even Steam.

    Companies are run by people, and thus will do whatever they think they can get away with, and if we, in this case the game buying public, financially reward those working against us, why on earth should any if us expect their behavior to improve?

  25. Only reason I hadn't subscribed before now is becaus subscribing doesn't really _do anything_. regardless of settings, I'm still the last one to know when Bruva Alfabusa puts something out.

  26. Don't take the begging for likes and subscribes thing too seriously. :3 People just need reminders, is all. Despite liking videos and subscribing to channels being the one interactive feature of YouTube, at least 60 to 80% of the users don't even think to bother with it on a regular basis, they just watch the video and think to themselves "yeah that was a good video" and go on their merry way without booping any buttons to that effect.

  27. Unpopular opinion re:the harassment of people over these issues – I'm increasingly convinced that anyone with a verified online identity will someday need to be entirely segregated from any forum in which people are able to post anonymously. There's simply no way to stop people from doing this sort of thing short of having moderators spend every waking moment on such forums, and – as Jim alluded to – I'm tired to such interactions providing an easy deflection for valid criticism. (China ought to try this! "We vow to support the Hong Kong police, who've been unfairly harassed on social media! The real story here is how toxic the discussion has gotten!")

  28. I wonder what all those indie devs are going to do once their next project comes to release and EGS is not so eager to buy them out.

  29. Treating customers that aren't attacking anything and lumping all customers into one bad group is not right. That's not epic
    Regardless, Epic isn't helping any besides themselves. I wont be buying from the Epic Store

  30. so we're not gonna talk about how the ooblets devs were also mornonic shitslinging apes in this situation huh? i get your point, but tell the full fuckin story. both parties there were toxic.

    fuck epic.

  31. See the problem with EPIC is that they need to pull that head that stuck in their ass out and give developers the freedom to release on both. That's why I don't buy games from EPIC (while I do have it downloaded and installed) I only get my games when they are FREE each month.

  32. "also you're a dick." Yup. If you're harassing and threatening devs you're not the hero of the story. You're not on the right side. End of discussion.

  33. People werent as pissed with the developers of ooblets about the epic exclusivity as much at their shitty condenscending attitude towards the fans and people who didn't like it. Funny how you casually left that out.

    that said… the people who went on a toxic comment spree against the devs are pretty much scum of the earth.

  34. Not relevant to this episode, Jim, but thought you might find this interesting based on some of your previous Copyright and Youtube Problems related videos.

  35. Why not just kill EPIC then? If death threats only give them the leverage they wanted, then destroying their physical existence would cut the problem at the head wouldn't it?

  36. Microtransactions
    Epic store
    Todd Howard
    Epic store
    Squeek in a David Cage diss
    Steam needs quality control
    Capitalism bad
    Thinly-veiled political opinion on guns/capitalism/Rich people/Internet bullying, etc in the middle of any of the above video topics
    Epic store
    DARK SOULS!!!!
    76 videos on Fallout 76
    76 videos on Anthem
    Random wrestling montage
    Cringey pogs joke
    Cringey Boglins joke
    Skeletor voice

    There, I just gave you the plot of the channel. You don't have to watch any more videos now.

  37. I'd still rather buy my games on GOG if they're available on there. DRM-Free for me all the way. Also, many games have extra goodies along with the game too, so that's cool.

  38. I usually agree with Jim but not on this one. Steam is quietly enjoying sending their attack dogs to maul their competition. Dont get tricked into eliminating a company's competition for them. I dont think exclusives are anti consumer. Netflix shows arent available on Amazon. Fox shows arent available on TNT. Some iphone apps arent available on android. Some console games arent available on pc. Do you expect their business strategy to be a clone storefront of Steam? Thats not gonna make money. You're free to criticize Epic on other issues, but attacking them on exclusives is misguided.

  39. I wanted to add something else here in a separate comment from my original one. Just because there ARE toxic people going too far doesn't mean you should just lay down and take it, Jim. Giving up just because there are bad actors doesn't solve anything… it just gives the opposition more power. Absolutely you should separate yourself from the shitshow of fucked up people sending death threats, but if we just censored ourselves and sat down every. single. time. there were death threats… then nothing would get done. We know this, because almost every controversy has been mired with death threats and the people who love to abuse those death threats as positive PR. And yet we didn't stop fighting back then just because there were shit heads, and we managed to still get things done. There are always going to be toxic fucks who think it's okay to say whatever horrid thing they want. I mean, social media is full of teenagers who don't fully understand the consequences of their actions yet. And we keep making more teenagers because that's just how the world works. Sitting down and shutting up is how we end up vindicating Epic, these developers and other publishers who abuse that vocal minority to their benefit. We basically make it so that the only opposition is the self-defeating toxic shit heads. I mean… congrats on choosing to do nothing I guess. Was still a good video, but I disagree with your choice.

  40. EPIC should have waited a few more months before starting poaching games
    and implement at least some basic store functionality. I think that
    could have avoided a huge amount of the backlash.

    Because I get it.. Steam has a near monopoly on the market and getting
    people to leave a platform they have been using for many years is going
    to take more than just playing nice and being the better store. That
    didn't work for GoG and it wouldn't have worked for EPIC and so the
    choice of exclusive games makes sense even though as a consumer I don't
    like the practice.

    This is in no way an excuse for the pathetic state of the store and its features tho.
    I am very curious how the game market will look like in 2 to 5 years and
    I do hope EPIC does well. Having only one major company as the main
    game distribution platform is bad for everyone in the industry as well
    as the consumer. One thing many people don't realize while complaining
    about the number of distribution platforms many of the larger publishers
    released over the last few years is all due to Steam taking such a huge

    But hey, at least GoG Galaxy 2.0 is actually pretty good and makes the whole thing much easier

  41. Any developer who takes up the exclusive deal is an absolute idiot and deserves to lose their business. Epis is doing exactly what companies like Coles and Woolworths did here in Australia to milk farmers. They promised them a bigger cut if they only exclusively delivered milk to them. Once these suckers signed the papers, Coles lowered their share and the farmers are now committing suicide because they can't afford to pay for shit anymore. The same will happen to any game developer who gives their soul to Epic. Just you wait for it. And when that happens, I will have zero sympathy for them because they will have tanked their own business.

  42. I'm starting to genuinely worry. I always saw Steam as this immortal, indestructible giant that will be around for decades. Seeing the current state of things so worry that it might not be the case, and what happens to out libraries when it fails?

  43. I can understand Epic not wanting an indie game if it isn't an exclusive. Why push an indie game on your storefront to only then see people go and buy it on Steam, and let's face it that is what would happen. Hell look at the Witcher 3 as a AAA example. Rather than buy the Witcher 3 from GoG and give pretty much all the money to the company that made the game, most people went and bought it on Steam instead.

    People have had Steam for so long, and amassed a large collection of titles on it, that they are simply unwilling to look elsewhere when it comes to purchasing their games and it is hard to blame them.

    Ruthlessly pursuing exclusives is the only way a company has to get people to look outside of Steam when it comes to purchasing games.

  44. If a team gets it's money from a kickstarter supported by the comunity while promising access on a particular platform, and then takes the option away once they've already spent the money, they deserve the comeuppance indie dev or not. That's the kind of shit that pisses people off.

  45. How about having physical copies of games that are drm-free/without live service and sold by said company. I’d rather own a physical copy of games these days without the oversight of said companies tech departments.
    Maybe it’s just wishful thinking I suppose.🤓

  46. I would like a lot more videos if I could just remember to. If I remember after I've already clicked away. NOPE. That red bar at the bottom will reset, and I'll be confused in a week if I saw it or not.

  47. Listening to Jim start devolving into a "Capitalism is the root of evil" rant is like when your crazy uncle starts off making some good points about some problem in the government, but then derails himself on a topic about how public schools are teaching black children that they should get abortions.

  48. about Epic Game Store: we understand that the situation is sad, when even some specialized online press has already decided where to stand as you see article like this from an italian site:
    (Epic Games Store: the supremacy of the white gamer endangered by an application)

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