Acquiring a Job with the Federal Government

Good morning. I’m Glorimar Maldonado. I’m
the chief of staff of the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for Hispanics at
the Department of Education. And I am currently on temporary reassignment to the Office of
Personnel Management and the Office of Diversity and Inclusion. I’m real excited to welcome you today to today’s
webcast. I wanted to go ahead and give you just a quick background on why we’re doing
this. This was actually an idea that was created by OPM, Department of Ed, and now with LULAC,
in partnership with LULAC. We’re trying to just reach out to the national community.
Let folks know how to find and apply for jobs in the federal government. I’ve been with the government for eight years
now, almost eight years, and I can say it’s been one of the greatest decisions I’ve ever
made. The work is rewarding and I hope that you will be able to join us in serving the
American people. So without further ado, let me go ahead and
introduce Sara Clemente. She is the Director of Federal Affairs for the League of United
Latin American Citizens. She’s a good friend of mine and she will be moderating today’s
session. Sara? Good morning. Thank you for having me. My name is Sara Clemente. I work with LULAC,
the League of United Latin American Citizens. And under LULAC, one of our priorities is
economic empowerment. One of the best ways to empower individuals is to provide them
with employment. And what better than having an employment or work for the federal government?
I, as I said before, am a retired federal employee of 30 plus years, so I know how much
the government has to offer. Today, I have my coworkers here. I have my
friend here Julie and I have DeShan here today working with us and collaborating in this
effort. We’re trying to give you information that
will assist you in securing employment within the federal government. So people out there,
make sure you take advantage of these opportunities. This is one of the many opportunities you’ll
have because this is the beginning of a series of workshops that will be provided to you
free of charge, of course. We welcome you to share all this information with any and
everyone. DeShan? Good morning. My name is DeShan Mingo. I am
a Human Resource Specialist here at OPM. Basically, I conduct a lot of outreach activities and
presentations on how to get through the entire process for the federal government employment. We’re going to give you a lot of information
in a very short period of time. However, at the end, we will provide you with links to
the various information that we’re going to provide you, so don’t feel like you’re going
to miss something, because you won’t. At the end, as well, we’re going to send you a handout
on how to write your resume and formulate it for federal employment. Real brief, is the official website
that we use to post federal vacancies. When you go onto that website, the home page looks
a little boring. However, there is a lot of information on that first page. There’s information about our various student
programs — which Julie will talk about — various hiring authorities, special hiring authorities
for veterans, those with disabilities and what have you. Please use that home page.
We have tutorials on there. Again, the information that we provide you is on that website. Use our YouTube tab that’s on there. You can
follow us on Twitter as well as on Facebook. Just navigate through the system if you have
not been on our system. Just play with it. It’s very user-friendly. When you go onto our website, you don’t have
to create an account in order to search for jobs. However, once you find that opportunity
that you’re interested in, you will have to create an account. My recommendation, your
homework tonight ladies and gentlemen, is to go onto our website, and create your account.
That’s the most time-consuming part of the entire application process, so I encourage
you to do that, so that when you are ready to seek employment, you don’t have to go through
that process again. DeShan, before you go on, you mentioned that…what
is the website again, would you repeat the website? It is, G-O-V as in Victor. Also, you said you were using a lot of the
social networks. What are those networks that you’re using? We are on Facebook, and if you log on to our
website, on the front page, again, you have tabs that will take you to our Facebook page,
to our Twitter account, as well as YouTube. In the YouTube tab, we have all of our various
sessions on how to write resumes, interviewing techniques, and how to navigate our website,
as well as other information, so I encourage you to use that. Thank you, DeShan. Julie, what do you have
to offer us? Hi, my name is Julie Saad, and I work in the
student programs office, here at OPM. I’m a program analyst. I actually came into the
government as a student, about five and a half years ago, and found my way to a rewarding
career. In my current job, I work primarily on educating and inspiring students and recent
graduates to consider a career with the federal government, and provide tips and information
on how to do that. One of the things that is really a hot topic
right now, and I think really important for you all to know, is that we just launched
what we’re calling the Pathways Programs for students and recent graduates. These are brand
new programs, designed to recruit, hire, retain, and develop students and recent graduates
into federal government jobs. We did have some student programs in the past,
and what we found was that, students and recent graduates often had trouble competing for
jobs in the federal government, because the system is really set up to value experience.
When you’re a student or recent graduate, you might not have those years and years of
experience. So, what these programs are really designed
to do, is to level the playing field, and really create a career pathway, or a career
entryway for students and recent graduates, like many of you out there watching today,
to come into federal government careers. I’ll just briefly describe. These programs
became effective on July 10, so just a couple of weeks ago. The three programs that we have
are an internship program, which is designed for students to work while they’re in school,
and this is anywhere from high school to Ph.D. level, and anywhere in between. Then we also have a recent graduates program,
which is designed for individuals to work after they receive their degree or qualifying
certificate. They would be eligible to apply up to two years after receiving that degree
or certificate. Then, finally, our third pathway is our Presidential
Management Fellowship program or our PMF program. This is the only one of the three paths that
is not a brand new program. This program has actually been around for about 30 years, but
what we’ve done is we’ve reinvigorated it and we’ve made some changes to it so that
it’s better for the applicant and for those who use it. This program is specifically designed for
those individuals who are working on an advanced degree, so a master’s, a law, a Ph.D. What
we’ve done with the program is we’ve expanded the eligibility so now you can apply up to
two years after you’ve received that advanced degree. This is really designed to be a leadership
development program to really develop the next cadre of federal government leaders. So those are the three programs. Like I said,
they became effective on July 10th. Keep in mind that these programs are new, and so we’re
working with agencies to get these programs up and running. So it may be a little bit
of time before you actually start to see positions under these programs, but the site that you
want to bookmark is This is where you’re going to go to find additional
information on each of the three programs. This is where you’re actually going to, once
positions become available, this is where you’ll go to search for those positions. That’s a new thing with these programs as
opposed to the student programs we had in the past. There’s a requirement that if an
agency wants to hire under one of these programs, they have to make a notice available. So,
that’s going to be your central source, that website, for finding out about these opportunities. Julie, you mentioned three tiers. Could you
repeat those three tiers again? Yes. The internship program, which is designed
for current students. So you work while you’re working on your degree. I’m sorry to interrupt you. You said current
students. Is there an age limit in terms of the students that participate? There’s no age limit. One of the things that
we specifically specified is that age discrimination for any of these programs is prohibited. The second one is our recent graduates program.
That is for individuals who have received their qualifying degree or certificate within
the previous two years. And then the third is our Presidential Management Fellows. Let me go back to the age. You said that the
students can be from high school? Yes. From high school, meaning if they were in
grade 10, 11, or 12 it’s fine. Yep, anywhere all the way from high school
all the way up to Ph.D. and anything in between — so bachelor’s degrees, associate’s degrees,
master’s degrees, anything in between those two. Yes, in high school, they can be at any
grade level in high school. OK, so like me, I was in high school when
I was 12. So if I’m 12, I could have applied for that job? Well… [laughs] You know, I’ll go back and
check. There may be some minimum age requirements. I only ask you that because there may be some
requirements. We want to make sure that people are clear on the information. But understanding
that normally people are 16 and over when they’re in high school, that should be appropriate.
Thank you so much. DeShan, you were going back to how to apply,
is that correct? Or are you going to be doing anything else with regards to USAJOBS? Yes. When you go into the USAJOBS website
and you’ve found the job that you want to apply for, it literally will walk you through
that process. Very user friendly system. I’m not computer savvy by any means. Before I
came to work with OPM, I was able to actually navigate this website without any assistance.
So trust me, it’s very easy to use. I will recommend strongly that everyone out
there build a resume in our system. You are allowed up to five resumes in the USAJOBS
system. However, I make that recommendation because there are some agencies that will
not allow you to use your own resume. You have the option of also uploading your own
resume, but again, some agencies don’t allow you to use that during the process. So just
have your built resume in the system and then you won’t have to go through that process
again. DeShan, when you’re building the resume, is
it easy to cut and paste from a Word document into your system? Right. If you have a resume already written
in a Word document, please save it on the computer or have it on a flash drive that
you’re using to build your account in our system because when you get down to the duties
section, instead of rewriting everything that you’ve done, you can just cut and paste that
information. So, yes, you can use that. So it’s pretty friendly. Very user-friendly. OK. Yes, madam. Also, and we’ll touch on resume
really quick, when you’re writing your resume, ladies and gentlemen, please try to tailor
your resume to the job that you’re applying for. When I say that, I mean read the vacancy
announcement very carefully. You can use the information that’s in that vacancy announcement,
under the “Duties” section, as well as the “Specialized Experience” section. You can
include that information in your resume if you, in fact, have that experience. However, be careful not to copy verbatim.
That’s a good guide for you to use, so that you make sure that you’re including information
that you need on your resume. Also, be careful about using jargon. If you
are prior military, or you have worked in an organization that uses a lot of acronyms,
be careful about that. When you use your acronyms, be sure to spell them out, and then put your
acronym in parentheses, and then you can use it throughout your document. When you’re explaining your experience, you
want to make sure that your experience is clearly stated in your resume, not being concerned
about numbers of pages of your resume. There’s a misconception about your having to have
only one or two pages. In the federal government, we do not count pages. We are required, by
law, to read every page of your resume, to ensure that we’re looking at everything, to
determine your qualifications for the job. So, we’re looking for content. We are not
counting pages. I stress that, because that is a major misconception about applying for
jobs in the federal government. Also, when you are describing your experience,
make sure you use volunteer experience. Any leadership roles that you had in organizations
at your school, all of that is experience. You are not required to have been paid for
your experience, it’s just the experience that we’re looking for. So make sure you clearly
state that in your resume. DeShan, I’m glad you brought that to the light
here. A lot of the students are involved in a lot of student programs, a lot of activities
in school. You served as president of your senior class, you worked on volunteer activities,
while you were in college, you were there for them. A lot of colleges, now, showcase
the importance of doing community work. So that’s something that serves as leadership
experience. As long as you can demonstrate that, that is perfectly fine to use as experience. Yes, madam. And that’s why we encourage people.
Again, another misconception is that you cannot use that experience. We don’t care that you
did not get any money for it. That is experience that you can use, the leadership experience
is big. Project management, things of that nature. If you had a big project in your school
that you worked on, let us know about that, as well, because we do consider all of that
as valuable experience, when determining your qualifications for jobs. Make sure that you include any awards. Don’t
give us a whole page of awards. We know that we have some exceptional people out here,
but make sure that you give us at least five, if you have five. If you have 20, just keep
it down to maybe four or five that are relevant to that job that you’re applying for. We do
take that into consideration, as well. Management likes to see that. DeShan, before you go on, prior to preparing
the resume, you have to look at that vacancy announcement. And I wanted to ask you, how
important is it to read the vacancy announcement, and what elements of the vacancy announcement
must you include in your resume. Very good question. Thank you, Sara. Please,
ladies and gentlemen, if you have already applied for 100 jobs in the federal government,
it is imperative that you read every vacancy announcement of any job that you are going
to apply for, because different offices, agencies, require different things in that application
process. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen
very well-qualified people omit a document that is requested or required during that
application process. Read that “How to Apply” section. Read the “Duties.” Read the “Specialized
Experience” section very, very carefully, because you don’t want to just make a small
error and pretty much knock yourself out of the running for that job. I’ve seen people who felt like, because they
had a degree, or certain experience, they did not have to submit their transcript. Where,
in fact, the agency actually asked for transcripts, and they did not submit them, and that pretty
much knocked them out of the running. So, ladies and gentlemen, please read that
entire vacancy announcement. I know it can be a little cumbersome and tiring, sometimes.
But it is very important that you do that, so that you give yourself a fair opportunity
of your being considered for that job. So, DeShan, if we were to, in a nutshell,
wrap it up and say, in general, about the resume-writing, what are the key components
that must be included in the resume, because I know that there are some items that are
asked of you in a federal resume, that are not necessarily asked when you apply for a
job in the public sector. So, can you go over those point by point, so we can have a general
overview of what must be included in the resume? What you absolutely need to include on your
resume, and let me side bar…Use the website, that “Build Resume,” as your guide,
if you forget something that I tell you today, because that “Built Resume” is set up so that
you are forced, basically, to give us all the information that we require. You need to have contact information. And
please make sure, every time you apply for a job, that your contact information is up-to-date
and it is accurate. I had a gentleman before who missed a great opportunity, because he
moved, and did not give us a new phone number. So, we were not able to contact him. Don’t
do that to yourself. Make sure you let us know whether or not you
are a U.S. citizen. When you’re writing your experience, please make sure that when you
indicate the dates of your employment, that you use the month and year. Very critical.
You cannot say, for example, from 2010 to 2011, because most jobs in the federal government
require that you have at least one year of specialized experience, or an educational
requirement. If you do not tell us the month and the year, we cannot determine if you,
in fact, had that amount of experience that we’re looking for. Equally important is the number of hours that
you worked per week. Because if you indicate that you do have that one year of specialized
experience, and you don’t tell us that you were full-time, we cannot assume anything
in the government, so we cannot assume that you worked that job full-time. It could have
been 20 hours a week. If you don’t tell us, then we cannot consider the information that
you provide to us. Let me wrap this up, in terms of the resume.
I want to make sure that I emphasize, the information that is required on your resume
is your complete contact information, the citizenship, as well as addressing all the
points that are requested from you in the vacancy announcement so that you know, if
you have any questions with regards to any more information about the vacancy announcement,
there’s always a contact information, where you can call, and ask for any information
that you may have, or any questions that you have on the vacancy announcement itself. But it’s key, and I’ll repeat what DeShan
said, it’s key that you make sure you read that vacancy announcement. We have a habit
of saying, “Oh, I know what it is.” No. Read the vacancy announcement, because they have
information that you’re not familiar with, and you may have to ask further questions. DeShan, thank you so much for that general
overview. With that I’m going to go over to Julie, so
she can go a little bit more in depth about the Student Pathways. Excellent opportunity
for [indecipherable 0:19:08] , because once you know how to fill the resume, you’ll be
able to apply for the Student Pathways. Thanks, Sara, and I’ll just echo, too, before
I get more into some of the Pathways specifics, that when you’re applying for a Pathways position,
just like any other position on, a lot of these resume tips will apply. DeShan
was saying it best, when it’s really the idea of really tailoring your resume to the particular
position that you’re applying to, whether that’s a Pathways program position, or just
a general government position that’s not part of the Pathways programs. One of the tips that I like to give is this
idea of quality over quantity. I think it’s much better to do a few quality applications
with tailored, detailed resumes, than to do a lot of applications with the same generic
resumes, that are not well done. That’s a good rule of thumb. I will just re-emphasize that, again, if you’re
applying for a Pathways position or another position in government, you really want to
employ that tactic of tailored resumes, and using the vacancy announcement, using that
to then shape your resume, and show how you meet the knowledge or the skills or the different
qualifications that they are looking for. Show in your resume, how you’ve done that.
That’s, I think, a good rule of thumb. I’ll also expand a little bit on the Pathways
program. I mentioned the website to reference, the And
I just want to say that, we’re giving you a lot of information today, in a short amount
of time, so the websites that DeShan mentioned, also the website that I mentioned, you can
go to those to get expanded information on a lot of the topics that we’re touching on
in brief, here today. One of the things that you’ll find on the
students and grads website that I just mentioned is, we actually have a set of FAQs about the
Pathways program. They go over… What are FAQs? Oh. I’m sorry about that. Frequently Asked
Questions. So there are some Frequently Asked Questions about the Pathways program, things
such as specific eligibility requirements and additional information about that. And
you’ll be able to find that, it’s on the left-hand side of the page, where it says “FAQs,” Frequently
Asked Questions. Another good resource that we have on that
page, that I think is helpful, particularly to our student or recent graduate viewers
out there, is we have a listing of federal jobs by college major. One of the things I
always say about federal government work is that we often talk about the government as
a whole, but really it’s a collection of over 300 different agencies, with unique missions
and visions and types of work that’s going on. When we talk about the Pathways programs,
which are government-wide programs, you could find internship or recent-graduate positions
at a number of different agencies doing a vast array of work. Sometimes it might be
hard to figure out, “Well, what do I want to do? What’s my fit in this thing that we
call the federal government?” I would encourage you to reference that sheet, “Federal Jobs
by College Major.” It gives you, here are some different academic
areas of study that you might be pursuing, and here are some job titles that might work
well with that particular major. Could you repeat the name of that sheet again,
because that sheet is something that I’ve carried through out my whole career, and one
of the first questions I received from many people, not only students, is, “What can I
apply for?” So that is a great cheat sheet, for lack of a better expression. Yes. It is outstanding information. And that can
be found on the website as well. Yes. It can be found on the website, and the
name of it is, “Federal Jobs by College Major.” Again, it gives you different areas of study,
and then under each of those, it gives you different types of jobs in the federal government
that might work well with that degree. Now, does that mean that, if you’re a biology major,
that you have to do one of those five to ten things listed? Of course not. But it gives
you a way to narrow your search and really figure out where your interests and abilities
might lie. I think that’s important. Like we said, with
programs like the Pathways programs, there are going to be internship and recent graduate
positions at a number of different agencies, doing a number of different kinds of work.
So, that might be helpful to narrow your search. I want to go as far as saying there is something
on the sheet that says, “Any major.” In other words, the jobs in the federal government,
no matter what major you’re in, you can apply for that, or possibly work in that field. Absolutely. I’ll give, as an example, I graduated in education,
as a teacher. And my background has always been HR, marketing, and international affairs. Absolutely. I can relate, Sara, to that, as
well. I got my master’s degree in public administration, and I came in working at an HR job. So I was
able with that degree, which is another example of how sometimes the fit might not necessarily
be what you think. And that’s why it’s so important that you
read that vacancy announcement in detail, because that’s going to tell you what skills
they’re looking for, and it may not necessarily match what you thought your major is in. Absolutely. Absolutely. And, like I said,
with the Pathways programs in particular, those are really designed to value your education,
and to put students and recent graduates on a more level playing field, so that you can
compete, based on the qualifying certificate or the degree that you’re getting or have
received in the past, as opposed to…oftentimes, when students and recent graduates tried to
compete for standard federal jobs, you might be up against individuals who have 5, 10,
15-plus years of experience, and that might be difficult. So, when you’re looking for Pathways positions,
as with some of the previous student programs that we’ve had, you might find that the qualifications
will be more based on your education, or it may be a little bit broader than some of the
very, very specific positions that are not part of the Pathways programs. You talked about compete. How’s the competition
for these programs? That’s a good question, Sara, and these programs,
like I said, they’re really new. We just launched them a couple of weeks ago, so it’s hard to
tell exactly what that competition will be. I can tell you that, due to the change in
requirement, the fact that these positions will now need to be posted online…In the
past, agencies didn’t have to do that, and I truly think that this is a good thing, because
now you’ll be able to go to a single site and find out exactly what is available. I do think that there probably will be steep
competition. We know that a lot of students and recent graduates, even before we launched
these programs, were eager and hungry for federal jobs. I do think that the competition
could be stiff, but I’ll also say that, that also emphasizes the need to put forth a very
strong, quality application and resume, as DeShan was mentioning. It also emphasizes the fact that, in the federal
government, they are committed to make sure that everybody is aware of these opportunities.
And some of the community organizations are also committed to make sure that we inform
the community about these special programs that are out there, especially the student
programs. Absolutely. We recently came back from a conference, and
we were able to provide some of this information. We had the opportunity to share the information
with students, career counselors, and parents. Parents need to be aware of all these programs,
to motivate your children to participate in these programs, and then, most importantly,
to continue higher education. And this is a vehicle to help them continue higher education. Absolutely. I’ll mention, too, that we’re
constantly adding things and making improvements to the students and grads site on,
so I would encourage you…DeShan mentioned some homework items, I encourage you to visit
that site as some homework today, and just know that we’re constantly working on additional
information to put on that site, and to provide resources and information sessions and trainings
like this to you all, so that you’ll know about the latest of what’s going on in these
programs, how to apply for them, and how to find these positions. Give us a little bit more information, in
terms of the requirements for the recent graduates. That’s a good question, Sara, because the
recent graduates program, as I mentioned earlier, you’re eligible to apply up to two years after
you’ve received your degree or qualifying certificate. Again, in terms of the degree,
that’s anywhere from the associates to the Ph.D. level, and anywhere in between, and
also certain qualifying certificates that are equivalent to at least one year of full-time,
academic, college-level study. That’s sort of the key requirement. I will
say, there are two exceptions to that two-year window. The first one is for certain veterans
if they are called to active duty service. How that works is, say that you are a qualifying
veteran who received your degree. Your two-year clock starts, and let’s say, in the middle
of that two-year clock, you’re called to active duty service. You go to active duty service,
and when you return, so long as no more than six years have passed in total, you have the
remainder of your two-year clock, to apply. The other exception, and I know this one might
be very, very helpful to a lot of you watching today, is that, we did make an exception for
individuals who received their degree between December 27, 2010 and July 10, 2012. If you
received your degree during that window, you have a full two years of eligibility, from
July 10, 2012. That was to allow for time, because we knew that some recent grads might
miss this window, and might be disadvantaged, because of the time that it took to get these
programs up and running. I should have mentioned earlier that these
programs all started with a Presidential Executive Order. That was issued in December of 2010,
but it took us some time, because that Executive Order said, OK. And it directed OPM to make
these a reality. And that’s a pretty lengthy process. We were able to get it done, I think,
in a quick amount of time. And we wanted to allow that one exception, so as not to disadvantage
some of those individuals that received their degree during that timeframe. Let’s wrap it up, on the student programs. Sure. I want to go back to DeShan, about how to
apply in the vacancies. Yes. The three levels are, again? Internship program, for current students.
Recent graduate program, for individuals who received their degree within the preceding
two years. And a PMF program, for individuals who are either in the fall of their last year
of their advanced degree study, or have received their advanced degree within the previous
two years. And PMF stands for? Presidential Management Fellows program. All right. Thank you so much. Thanks. I’m going to go back to DeShan, and I’m going
to talk a little bit more about the vacancies and how to apply through the
It’s an extensive program, and we have a lot of information. One of the questions I have for you is, people
apply. They’ve just graduated from college. There are different levels in the federal
government, so sometimes people don’t know what they can apply for, so tell me. I graduated
from high school. What level jobs can I apply for? When you’re looking vacancy announcements,
and you’re just coming out of high school, or even graduating with a bachelor’s degree,
you should be looking for entry-level positions. Those are positions between the three and
seven level. The vacancy announcement, again, clearly describes what degree you need, what
experience you need, and if you need, in most jobs in the federal government, you have to
at least have a high school diploma or an equivalent. Read the vacancy announcement. You should
be looking at the GS threes, fours, fives. If you have a bachelor’s degree, you are automatically
qualified for a lot of our…not all, a lot of our entry level five positions and some
seven positions. GS, I should say. Again, read the vacancy announcement. The
qualifications section is what you should be looking at. If you have a master’s degree, they’ll ask
you for specialized experience, and this is the same for the entry level position. You
can either have the experience, or the degree, or you can have a combination of the two.
It’s kind of difficult to get into it without seeing an actual vacancy announcement right
now, because, depending on the job, the type of job, the qualifications could vary. For those who are pursuing, or have gotten
a Ph.D. degree, you can qualify automatically with your degree for some of our positions
at the GS-11 position. So, again, all that information is in the vacancy announcement.
But if you know that you don’t qualify for these upper level positions, I would recommend
that you look all the way up to a GS-7 position, because you may have the experience. I’m just going to ask the same question over.
OK. I graduated from high school, what levels can I apply for? For high school, I would recommend that you
look from a GS-1 to maybe up to GS-5. I can’t say definitively, because I don’t necessarily
know what the person’s experience is, because even at high school, a lot of people have
jobs. So, you may qualify for a higher level position. That’s why it’s imperative that
you look at the vacancy announcement. But start at the lower levels, at the GS scale
and work your way up. If you feel like you are qualified, you meet those qualifications
and apply for the job, if you’re on the fence about whether or not you meet the qualifications,
I always encourage people to go on and apply for a job. Because you don’t want to miss
that opportunity just because you’re not certain that you don’t meet those qualifications. Hey, I graduated with a bachelor’s degree.
What should I be looking for? You should be looking for at least the GS-5.
And again, based on your experience, you can look for jobs that are higher than a GS-5.
But at a minimum, you can come in the federal government in a lot of positions at the GS-5
level. And I graduated with a master’s degree. Master’s degree. You can look at GS-11 positions.
However, I would encourage you, if you don’t see those jobs, look in some of the lower
graded positions as well. Because the idea is to get into the government, because once
you get in, you can move to different agencies, different positions. So, don’t just feel like,
“Oh, I have a master’s degree, and I don’t want a lower level position.” That might be
your doorway into the federal government. So don’t just look for the higher graded positions. And for those college graduates, how important
is that GPA? Well, the GPA is important because management
looks at them. We don’t look at them for qualifications, but management looks at them to see what type
of student that you are, are you motivated, are you serious about your studies, and things
of that nature. I would also encourage you, let’s say, for
instance, if you are a criminal justice major. I would encourage you to volunteer at a police
station or even if you can’t find a paid internship, volunteer. Go be a student volunteer, because
you’re getting that experience that you need in order to actually get a paid position. There’s something called career ladder vacancies.
OK? Tell me a little bit more about the career ladder vacancies. Give me a description. What
is a career ladder vacancy? Career ladder vacancies, I’ll give you an
example. You may see a job that’s advertised at the GS-5, and you may see 5, 7, 9. And
nine being the fullest, the highest grade that you can go in to that position. When
you see that, career ladder is just that. A lot of times, you can come into a position
at the GS-5 level. And if you have performed at least to a fully successful level, the
very next year, you can be promoted to, you’re not guaranteed, because it’s based on your
supervisor and whether or not they feel like you’re ready for that next level. But you
can go up to the seven level the next year, and a year after that, you can be promoted
to the nine level, based on your performance. So, and it’s called career ladder because
that is a ladder to go up in your career. So, I can come in as a grade five and within
three years be a grade nine if I’m on the career ladder, if I perform successfully. Yes, madam. That’s accurate. And the key here is perform successfully. Yes, madam. A lot of people, I’ve heard throughout
my career, and I still talk to young people now, even some older people. A lot of times,
people want to say, “That’s not my job. That’s not in my PD to perform something.” I would
encourage you that as long as your supervisor’s not asking you to do anything unethical or
illegal, to just do it because that’s more experience that you can put on your resume. If you feel like your boss is giving you something
that’s not in your PD, or even if they want you to train in another area outside of your
area, just do it because it only benefits you and your career in the long run. DeShan, you know that the federal government
promotes employment to every and anyone. We have a lot of parents out there who do not
have the opportunity to work in a full time position. Are there part time positions in
the federal government? Yes, there are part time positions in the
federal government. While you’re conducting your search, and I encourage you to use the
advanced search, not necessarily the keyword search. I just want to talk about that just
for a quick second. Because if you use the keywords search on
some of these jobs, just say for instance if you’re looking for administrative positions
and you type the word administrative, you’re going to get every vacancy announcement that
has the word administrative in it. However, if you’re in IT and you’re looking for a specific
type of job in IT, you might want to use that keyword search because you’re looking for
a job that has a specific network to work on. Just be careful about the keyword search.
However, when you’re conducting an advanced search, at the very end of your search criteria
it asks you the different types of jobs that you’re looking for — if you’re looking for
permanent employment, temporary employment, full time, part time, things of that nature. Make sure you tailor your search to that type
of job that you’re looking for to include the location. You have more opportunities
if you’re mobile. Keep that in mind when you’re looking for jobs. Don’t just look in the state or the area that
you live in now. If you’re not tied to that area, please expand your search to the entire
United States if you’re mobile. That just opens up more opportunities for you. I also wanted to ask you, you mentioned the
keyword mobile, that means that we have federal jobs all over the world? A lot of people think our jobs are just here
in the United States. Like Sara said, we have jobs throughout the world. When you use that
advanced search, there’s a section where you can indicate the country that you want to
work in. You can narrow it down to state and locale, things of that nature. We have jobs
everywhere. I know sometimes it’s scary, especially for
young folks, to just up and move, but a lot of them do it and they find that they’re successful.
They find new friends there so you don’t feel like you’re in this whole big city or smaller
city away from friends and family and there’s nobody there for you. Trust me, when you get
into the government, you’ll meet a lot of people and they’ll make you feel comfortable
and welcome, so it won’t be so scary for you. I’ll testify to that. I left Puerto Rico and
came to the States to work, and I am happy to say that I do not regret it and I am so
glad that I did take that risk at the time. I motivate other students who are not necessarily
in the area that the opportunities may be to take that opportunity and take advantage
of that. Talking about that, if I need to move from one state to another, will the government
pay for me to move? The vacancy announcement will tell you whether
or not relocation expenses are paid. Make sure you read that. If you need the government
to pay and it does not indicate that the government is going to pay for you to move, then they’re
not going to pay for it. That is correct. I also have to say that I
took advantage of the relocation opportunity as well. After I left Puerto Rico and went
to New Jersey, I came from New Jersey to Washington D.C. and I’m happy to say that the federal
agency that I was working for recruited me and moved me from the New Jersey area, or
the New York State metropolitan area into the Washington D.C. area. The opportunities are there. Some of them
may, and some of them may not, but make sure you look at that vacancy to make sure that
you get that information. If you don’t mind, what I will say to that
is even if the government does not pay for your move, if the management selects you for
the position, more times than not you don’t find a manager that will not allow you the
time that you need to actually relocate. Don’t feel like if you’re selected for a job
you have a week or two to move. That’s not going to be the case. They will allow you
sufficient time to get settled in the new area where your position is located. Now let’s talk about one of the most important
things. First of all, we know that working for the federal government is great because
it’s a secure job. Once you come into the federal government, you’re there for life
unless you do something that you’re not supposed to do. But we know we all avoid the laws and
that’s not going to happen. Moving from a high locale area, in other words,
where it costs more money to live or less money to live. If I’m moving from, let’s say
New York City to California, or vice versa, anywhere. There’s something called locality
pay. What does that mean? As you all know, throughout the United States,
the cost of living varies. What the federal government has done, is to allow locality
pay, based on the cost of living in different areas. I used to think that D.C. was the worst
place that you live, in terms of cost of living, but that’s not the case. You can go to San
Francisco, and they’re locality pay is higher than ours, because it costs more there, to
live. If you go on to, and you look
on the right-hand side of that page for “Salary and Wages,” there’s a pay scale that will
give you an idea, and it breaks down the various salaries, in terms of GS level, and the locality,
or the location where you’re looking for that job, and it shows you the salary for that.
So, again, they break down the locality pay in terms of where you live, where you’ll be
living, because I know some of you are going to move for some jobs… It’s worth it. Yeah. It is absolutely worth it. I would encourage
my daughter, who keeps saying that she never wants to leave home, well, I’m putting my
foot in her back, gently, so she can get out there. So she may have to move away from home
to find that job that she’s looking for. But, again, just don’t narrow your search. Make
sure that you take every opportunity that’s out there, to include moving, so that you
can get into that career that you’re really desiring. I want to get a little bit more into the benefits
of working for the federal government. There are some opportunities, for example, but we
have what we call the transit subsidies in the federal government. Can you explain a
little bit more what transit subsidy means? Transit subsidies are for those people who
are in, like in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area — I’ll just use that, because that’s
where we are, right now. If you commute, let’s say for instance, if you use our metro, or
even if you ride a commuter bus, the government gives you a certain amount of money every
month that supplements your cost of getting to and from work. I can’t remember what the amount is, right
now, but it’s a substantial amount, I think it’s like $125 a month, that the government
gives you, so that you can get to and from work. That takes a little bit of stress off
of your pockets. And the purpose for that is the government’s
commitment to the environment. Because we believe that, if you don’t drive in, the fumes
are less. So, it’s a commitment of the federal government for the environment. We want to
promote that. But it’s also a benefit, and something that I also took advantage of. It
saves a little bit of money in your pocket, but at the same time you’re helping with the
environment, which is a win-win situation, all around. Absolutely. Another thing that the government has been
pushing is the flexible schedules. Tell me a little bit more about the flexible schedules. Flexible schedules. [laughter] I want one. Flexible schedules are designed
to be just that, flexible. We know that people have lives outside of work. So what the government
has realized is that it’s easier sometimes, if we have what we call alternate works schedules,
AWS. And what that is, is that you can work nine hours a day for eight days… Exactly. …and then your ninth day, you will work
eight hours a day. And then, every pay period, you have one day off, during the week. There’s
also what we call a 4-10 schedule, where every week, you will work four days for 10 hours
a day, and every week, you would have a day off. We also have telework. If you’re in one
of those positions that will allow you to work from home, or from another place, then
management has the option of allowing you to do that, as well. That helps a lot, when you have a parent that
you’re taking care of at home, or you have children, you have doctor’s appointments,
you’re not having to use you leave all the time, so that you could take those AWS days,
your days off, to take care of your personal business. So, some of the benefits, I can just summarize
this, one of the benefits is, besides the salaries, because we’re pretty much competitive,
right now, the way the economy is, an addition to that is the flexibility of work, which
is the flex schedules, where it means I can work from 7:30 to 5:00 for four days a week,
and have one day off every pay period. Or I can work 10 hours a day, from 6:00 in
the morning to 5:00 in the evening every day, and take one day a week off, and usually it’s
Friday, which is the best day to take off, every week. Also, we have the opportunity of teleworking,
where I can work from home. Believe it or not, sometimes you produce more working from
home those eight hours, than when you’re in the office… Absolutely. Benefits, again, the salaries, based on the
economy right now, we’re competitive, the flexibility in work, telework, flexible schedules
and so on. Also, another benefit from the federal government, the transit subsidy. In
an effort to help with the environment, but at the same time, it’s helping your pocket.
So, definitely, the benefits of working for the federal government are there. And those
are some of the many benefits we have to offer. I also want to go into another aspect, which
is the student loan repayment program. And I’m going to let Julie talk a little bit about
that. The student loan repayment program is another
potential benefit that you might be able to take advantage of as a federal employee. The
way that this works, I want to mention two programs. There’s the federal student loan
repayment program. This is, just like DeShan was mentioning with the relocation benefit,
an optional benefit that agencies can provide to employees, to either hire or retain them. I want to emphasize that not every agency
uses this, and it really depends on the agency, and whether or not they are going to offer
this kind of benefit. That’s something where you would inquire. Either look on the vacancy
announcement, it might state that. Or inquire, if you’re made a tentative job offer, if they
do offer this — just keeping in mind that it will completely vary, whether or not they
do, depending on the agency. Another program that I want to mention, that’s
completely separate from the student loan repayment program, is the public service loan
forgiveness program. This program is the result of a bill that passed several years ago, and
what it says is that, if you work in a federal government public sector job for 10 years
or more, and during those 10 years you are making on-time monthly payments towards your
student loans, any debt that you have in student loans after that 10-year period is forgiven. This is not a program like the other one,
that depends on the agency. Anyone could be potentially eligible for this program, if
they meet the criteria. This is handled by the Department of Education. If you go to
www.ed.government and put in “public service loan forgiveness,” you can find additional
information about it. DeShan, I wanted to ask you another question.
The current administration has implemented a couple of Executive Orders. One specifically
for the veterans, and one for people with disabilities. I want to go a little bit into
what the federal government is doing to address the needs of hiring people with disabilities
and veterans. Can you talk a little bit about the veteran
program that we may have? And is that information available on the OPM website. I am a 30 percent disabled veteran, so I do
have a little bit of knowledge about the various hiring authorities that the federal government
uses for hiring veterans. One of them is called the Veteran’s Recruitment Appointment, VRA.
With VRA, there are certain criteria that you have to meet. First of all, for all of
them, you have to have been dishonorably…I meant, dishonorably, wow, honorably discharged. [laughter] That would be funny. Honorably discharged.
You can be a disabled veteran, or you could have been discharged within the last three
years. We also have the Veteran’s — and I keep forgetting the name, so I’m reading — Veteran’s
Employment Opportunity Act. That’s called VEOA. That’s where agencies can actually use
the veteran’s preference points, to hire veterans when they announce jobs outside of their agency. So, if they post a job that is meant for the
entire public, you can apply for those jobs, using your veteran’s preference. On that note, make sure that, if you’re going
to use your veteran’s preference, or the fact that you’re a disabled veteran, you have to
make sure that you have your DD214 uploaded in our system. If you are a disabled veteran,
make sure you have your VA letter. If you are a disabled veteran, you know what that
VA is, and most agencies will require you to fill out an SF-15. That is a form that
indicates what your disability rating is, and that you are entitled to that preference. Again, I’m a 30 percent disabled veteran.
“Thirty-percenters,” we call them, can apply for pretty much anything, even if a job announcement
has closed, and you didn’t know about it, and they have not made a selection, you can
still apply for that job, and they have to consider you for that job. Veterans have preference in the student programs,
as well. What the administration has tried to do is to ensure that our veterans that
have been in war situations, combat situations, have an opportunity to come home and actually
be gainfully employed. Thank you. But I also wanted to stress that
there are other agencies who have special programs for veterans. The Administration
of Veteran Affairs also has programs that they have recently commenced, and one is the
VA for vets. And this program provides veterans with assistance for helping them transition
the skills they acquired while they were serving in the armed forces, into the civilian world. This is an excellent opportunity, as well,
and this is something that they can get information on, on the Veteran’s Administration website,
as well. So, the opportunities are there for the veterans, as well, to work in the federal
government. As I stated before, the executive order for
veterans is a very fluid document where it’s giving the agencies the opportunities to create
opportunities for the veterans and provide them the opportunities that they so deservedly
have earned by protecting this country, and thereby with their service. That’s true. Also, another website that you
want to look at it is There is a wealth of information on there as well.
Like Sara was saying, the VA website, VA for vets. The VA has a system now designed only for
veterans, and they post vacancy announcements on this website. Nobody can apply for them
except for veterans, so they have management target veterans for very specific positions
in their agencies. Agencies are required to make sure the veteran population is afforded
opportunities to get into the government, and again, to be employed. Once again, opportunities for veterans and
people with disabilities. You know a little bit about the people with disabilities programs
as well? Yes, people with disabilities, what we call
hiring under an authority called Schedule A. That information, and all this information
that we’re giving you is on our website, On the very first page there are tabs for
all of this, so if you don’t get everything that you need right now, just make sure that
you go to that website. But people with disabilities are another targeted
audience that the federal government is honing in on. They’re trying to get people into the
government and gainfully employed. What you need in order to qualify as a Schedule
A is documentation from your doctor or from a state or…I can’t remember exactly what,
but there’s a state or health department that you can get documentation from indicating
that you do have what we call a severe disability such as blindness. You could be deaf. You
could have some other physical limitations. They also need to indicate that you are employable
— that even though you have these disabilities, that you are able to perform the duties of
your positions. We do have those opportunities as well. Most agencies have a contact person,
and I did write that down. If you’re looking at a specific agency, you
can go on these agency websites and search for the selective placement program coordinator.
Again, that’s called the selective placement program coordinator. Those people are there
to make sure that they provide you with those opportunities. Let management know that they
have individuals who are looking for employment with specific disabilities, but can still
perform the duties. Make sure to reach out to those individuals.
They’re there to help you. That’s their sole job, is to help people with disabilities to
get into the federal government. With that said, we noticed now that so far
we hire veterans, people with disabilities, we hire everyone. The opportunities are there
for everyone throughout the country. Remember, you also can have work and apply for jobs
throughout the country as well. I also wanted to ask a question for people
with disabilities specifically about students. I know there’s a student program. It’s a summer
program. Can you give us a little more information about that? Yes. The program that Sara’s referring to
is the Workforce Recruitment Program, or the WRP for short. You can go to to
find out about additional information about this program. Basically, this program is a partnership between
the Department of Defense and the Department of Labor. The goal is to bring students and
recent graduates with disabilities into federal government jobs. It’s a great way, another
great avenue. Sara was mentioning there are different opportunities,
different career paths based on what you’re looking for. It’s another great way to get
students and recent graduates with disabilities into federal government work. Also, just to piggyback on what DeShan was
saying about the selective placement program coordinators, you can actually find a full
directory of those coordinators if you go to OK, great. At this time, we are almost ready to wrap
up the whole session, but I have some questions that came from the audience. I’ll start with
some of the questions and we’ll see which of you would like to address these questions. Should I attend a federal job fair? Absolutely. A lot of the federal job fairs…We
have agencies there that are actually hiring. And those that are not hiring on the spot,
they will tell you about the various opportunities that are in their agency, so I would encourage
you to follow up with them. Sometimes they take your resumes on the spot because they
know of other opportunities in their agencies. So I would encourage you to make sure that
when these job fairs come to your town, that you participate because there are opportunities
available for you. I’m going to put my two cents in that one,
as well. Having, like I said before, worked for the federal government for a number of
years, I would participate and attend a lot of the federal job fairs representing my agencies. The one thing I will say that it’s an excellent
opportunity to go out there, talk to the people who are actually doing the job, get more information
about the agency that you may be interested in. And it’s an opportunity to have a conversation
with an individual who can give you information about many opportunities that be coming out
in the future and possibly put you on a list where you can get the information firsthand
as to what’s coming down the pipe in terms of employment opportunities. It’s a good thing to go out there and have
that opportunity. Another question I have right now, what are
my chances of getting hired? I will address that question right now, as well. One of the issues is a lot of the federal
agencies have what they call the hiring authority, where they can hire on the spot. But in the
reality, a lot of the agencies may not have that opportunity. But again, I will reiterate what I said before.
It will give you an opportunity of the individual who may be hiring, who may be at that job
fair. The opportunity to have a conversation with you to gauge the skills that you may
have and determine if you have those skills that they’re looking for. Then he or she may contact you in the future
and provide you the opportunity to compete for that job, as well, or tell you what the
processes are to compete for that job, or tell you what specifically they may be looking
for, or at the same time, review your resume and tell you you’re lacking this in your resume.
Maybe you want to go back and redo your resume and have a better opportunity in applying
for that job. I will echo what Sara said, and I will also
say we have given you a ton of information today. I think it does speak to the fact that
this information is going to be really helpful to you as you apply. I think that federal
government jobs, yes, it may take some additional time and energy to apply for them. It may
take employing some of these tips like tailoring your resume, looking for these different types
of hiring authorities, as we call them, doing your research, creating a USAJOBS account. But any one of us on this stage, or most federal
employees that you talk to, would say putting the time and energy in on the front end and
employing these tips that we’ve given you is going to make you more competitive candidate.
When you’re able to land that first federal job, you’re going to find that that time and
energy was really worth it. I have another question from the audience.
What other documents can you post on USAJOBS? I’m going to have DeShan answer that question. In your account, you should upload documents
that you’re going to use regularly during your application process. Again, I’ve already
touched on the veterans. Make sure you put all your veteran documents in there. This will help you, and this is part of your
homework tonight when you go in and create your account, you’re going to upload your
documents. If you have a scanner, you’re going to need to scan them in as a document and
then upload them in your account. When I say upload them in your account, when
you do go into your account, you will see…I think it says uploaded documents. You can
click on the word “upload” and it’s going to literally walk you through that process. If you are a student and you have a degree,
make sure you upload your transcripts in there so that they are readily available. If you
are a person with disabilities, make sure that you have the documentation and upload
that information as well. Again, this keeps you from running around
trying to find this information when you’re ready to apply for a job. Everything that
you need will have already been uploaded into our system. Another question we have from the audience
is, should I put my language proficiency on my resume? I’ll address that question myself. Being bilingual is always a plus. If you have
the skills, make sure that you let them know that you are proficient, and what language
it is. Some of the agencies are looking for individuals who have language skills. As an example I will say that for example
in the intelligence community, they may be looking for specific languages like some of
the language in the Middle East. But, even if you don’t speak that language and you already
have the skill in the second language, you are more apt to acquire another language with
less challenges than someone who has never learned a second language. That’s a plus. Make sure you always put that information
on your resume. Then the other question I have, is there a way to search USAJOBS for
vacancies with specific language requirements? DeShan? That’s a good question. I’m not sure that
you can do that. The vacancy will let you know whether or not there is a requirement
for that. I have not seen that in our job announcements. I don’t think it’s there. I
don’t think you can search. I’m almost certain you cannot make a search based on language
requirement. Thank you so much. I don’t know that you can,
I have to agree with you. But, that’s why you have to read the vacancy announcements,
to make sure if there’s a language requirement. Many times the language preferred and not
required, but if you have that skill, why not showcase it? Two is always better than
one. The other question I have right now is, sometimes
when I apply for a job it’s asked that I give information about my race. Is this helpful
to provide? Will I be hired based on this information, and what is the information used
for? When you apply for jobs in the federal government,
when we ask for your race, nobody sees that during the application process. That is only
for us to use for statistical purposes only. Don’t feel like when you apply for a job somebody
knows that you’re African American, Indian or anything. Nobody sees that information.
Again, it’s only used for statistical purposes. Those statistics are very important for us
because that determines how well we do our job in having a government that represents
the people that they support. Moving right along to another question. Is there a job…no, we already asked that
question. Should I put my language proficiency…we already asked that question. Oh, this is a
great one. Should I put internship experience in my resume? Absolutely. As DeShan and Sara were both mentioning
earlier, when you’re doing your resume, think not only of formal jobs that you have had,
formal full time, paid experiences, but internships, volunteer experiences, things from your academic
or extra curricular roles. What you want to do is you want to make sure
that you are showing how you meet the qualifications for the job. You can pull from any of your
experiences, including internships, to show that. That’s going to be very valuable for
you. Should it be listed as a job on your resume? That…I would. You’ll see when you go and
you do…When you create a resume using the USAJOBS Resume Builder, you’ll see that you
have a number of different ways where you can input this information. There’ll be sections
that will say, “Work Experiences.” There’ll sections that will say, “Additional Experience.” In my preference, if you want to highlight
that on your resume, I think it’s helpful to put that as a work experience because that
is putting that front and center and it allows you, in the USAJOBS Resume Builder, more space
to actually expand on what you did and to describe your experience in that internship
— not only what you’ve done but the results that you got. So I actually would encourage you not only
for internship experiences but for other experiences to play with how you organize your resume
and maybe for particular jobs, especially when you’re looking at a vacancy announcement
and they’re asking for a specific skill set that maybe you got as part of an internship
or part of a volunteer experience, I would highlight that more prominently or maybe put
that as an entire section in your work experience category. There’s another question on the pathway programs.
Are the pathway programs for D.C. locations only? Absolutely not. These programs are available
for agencies to use government wide. These positions can be located not only in D.C.,
but all across the country. These will be available, depending on what agencies are
hiring for. I will mention, DeShan touched on it earlier,
but there’s an interesting statistic out there that most federal jobs actually exist outside
of D.C. That’s because while many agencies are headquartered here in D.C., they have
field offices in other locations throughout the country. When you’re looking for Pathways
positions, you’ll see that while some of them may be here in our nation’s capital, others
will be dispersed in many other geographic areas. In the United States and its territories. Julie Yes. [laughs] All right. Because I have to include Puerto
Rico in there, all right? [laughter] The other question I have from the public
is, where can I get one-on-one resume writing help or one-on-one federal job search help? I’m going to just run with these, and I’m
going to let DeShan and Julie address this answer as well. In terms of the one-on-one, a lot of the conferences
nationwide provide workshops. I know that in the organization I’m working with, which
is LULAC, we make sure that we offer during our conference workshops on how to write federal
resumes. It is open to the community free of charge during the LULAC conference, which
by the way will be next year in this Vegas. A little plug in there. But we will be offering again the one-on-one
free resume writing workshops for anyone who wants to attend, and the one-on-one federal
job search help as well. The workshops will give you information on how to apply, and
how to write the federal resume as well. I’ll let Julie talk a little more about that as
well. Yeah, I would just echo what Sara was saying,
that OPM hosts a number of different events. We participate in a number of different conferences
and a number of different outreach events where we provide not only training on how
to find and apply for federal jobs, but also resume writing as well where we do individual
workshops and trainings. That’s a great opportunity, if you’re able to participate in any of those
events, to get that individual help. I’ll pass it to DeShan, to share anything additional. Yeah. In addition to that, when you go to
job fairs, a lot of times when different organizations host job fairs, they have the workshops, as
well. So take advantage of that. But I would caution you that, when you go to these workshops,
that you find out who is conducting the workshop. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen
where people have actually paid to have their resumes done, and people would say that they
had the federal experience. We don’t charge you, to help you with your
resume. Be careful about that. A lot of times, these people don’t have that federal background
or staffing background, or the experience that’s needed to actually help you with your
resume when you’re applying for jobs in the federal government. So just be careful about who it is that you
get to help you with your resume. Again, we’re going to provide you all with a handout that
really gives you detailed, step-by-step instructions on how it is that you should formulate your
resume when you’re applying for federal jobs. Also, generally speaking, if there’s a workshop
on how to find and apply for employment in the federal government, or how to write a
resume, if it’s a federal agency conducting the training, there will be no cost involved
with that. And they cannot guarantee you getting a job, either. I’ve seen a lot of announcements
saying that, “We will guarantee you getting a job in the federal government.” No. There is no guarantee regarding a job
with the program, unless you go through the proper process, which is applying through, or whatever mechanism the agency that’s requesting to fill that vacancy
is proposing. I want to wrap this up by saying, one, there
are jobs for everybody out there. And there are jobs all over the country, as well as
all over the world, with the federal government. In addition to that, there are many opportunity
in the federal government besides salary, transit subsidies, health benefits, and so
on. We didn’t go into the number of days you get off for vacation, and things like that,
based on your experience, that’s something that they will talk about in the future. In other words, it’s an excellent opportunity
to work for the federal government. As I stated before, I am a proud, retired federal government
employee, and I would do it over again, and I recommend it to everyone. It’s available
to everyone, and we hope that you take this into consideration. Those schools that are listening to us, I
strongly propose you create a curriculum dedicated to, maybe an hour class on how to write federal
resumes, or how to apply for employment in the federal government. We’ll be more than
glad to help you create those curricula, and partner with you, to make this happen. So
we welcome the challenge, we’re inviting you to take the challenge. Hopefully, we’ll see
you in the next session. Remember, this is the first of many, and we
hope to see you soon. Signing off, Sara Clemente. Julie Saad. And DeShan Mingo. And thank you very much. See you later.

Maurice Vega

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