2020 Presidential Debate Town Hall: Bernie Sanders Discusses Fight for Health Care Justice


>>>WELCOME BACK TO CNN’S CLIMATE CRISIS TOWN HALL. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT’S RESEARCH SAYS UNCHECKED CLIMATE CHANGE COULD KILL THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS IN THIS CENTURY. WE’RE DEDICATING TONIGHT TO CLIMATE PLANS PROPOSED BY TEN DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, JUST AS HURRICANE DORIAN IS THREATENING THE EAST COAST AFTER DEVASTATING THE BAHAMAS. WE’VE JUST HEARD FROM VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND PLEASE WELCOME VERMONT SENATOR BERNIE SAN SANDERS. THIS IS YOU, SENATOR. [ APP [ APPLAUSE ]>>WELCOME. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. I WANT TO GET RIGHT TO THE QUESTIONS. THIS IS RICHARD FROM MASSACHUSETTS. HE WORKS IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY. WELCOME. HOW ARE YOU DOING?>>GOOD EVENING. >>SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION OVER HERE. FRANK, YOU’RE ABOUT TO — >>BE CAREFUL. >>YEAH. >>OKAY. THERE YOU GO. >>I HAVE LARGE FEET. THERE IS A JOKE IN THERE BUT I’M NOT SAYING ANYTHING. [ LAUGHTER ]>>SENATOR, YOUR CLIMATE PLAN IS SPECIFIC HOW YOU’LL SPENT $16 TRILLION AND I’M DELIGHTED SOMEONE IS WILLING TO SPEND THAT MUCH. CAN YOU BE EQUALLY SPECIFIC WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM? YOU SAID YOU’LL TAX FOSSIL FUEL COMPANIES BUT IT’S ELIMINATING THE USE OF FOSSIL FUELS. HOW MUCH INCOME CAN YOU REDUCE AND ELIMINATED AND WHERE ELSE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM?>>IF I COULD, RICHARD, LET ME BEGIN PREDICATING EVERYTHING I’M GOING TO SAY TO YOU THIS EVENING. DONALD TRUMP THINKS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HOAX. I THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP IS DANGEROUSLY DANGEROUSLY WRONG. I MAY BE OLD FASHIONED BUT I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE — [ APPLAUSE ]>>AND RICHARD, I’M IS SURE YOU KNOW SCIENTISTS HAVE TOLD US CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL AND CAUSED BY HUMAN ACTIVITY AND CAUSING DEVASTATING PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD AND MOST FRIGHTENINGLY WHAT THEY TELL US IS IF WE DON’T GET OUR ACT TOGETHER AND MAKE MASSIVE CHANGES, AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUEL TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABLE ENERGY IN THE NEXT 11 YEARS, THE DAMAGE DONE TO OUR COUNTRY AND THE REST OF THE WORLD WILL BE IRREPARABLE. RICHARD IS QUITE RIGHT. WE’RE PROPOSING THE LARGEST, MOST COMPREHENSIVE CLIMATE CHANGE PROGRAM EVER PRESENTED BY ANY CANDIDATE IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. [ APP [ APPLAUSE ]>>SO WHERE DO WE GET, PEOPLE SAY BERNIE, YOU’RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY. IS IT REALISTIC? MY RESPONSE TO THEM IS IT REALISTIC TO NOT LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS AND TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THE PLANET THAT OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL BE LIVING IN WILL BE INCREASINGLY UNINHABITABLE AND UNHEALTHY. IS THAT REALISTIC? I THINK WE HAVE A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO ACT AND ACT BOLDLY AND TO DO THAT IT WILL BE EXPENSIVE. THIS IS HOW WE GET THE MONEY FOR A START INSANELY HONESTLY WHAT GOES ON RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE GIVING THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY APPROXIMATELY $400 BILLION EVERY SINGLE YEAR IN SUBSID IES AND TX BREAKS. IF WE’RE PAYING FOR THIS OVER A 15-YEAR PERIOD BY THE WAY. SECOND OF ALL, WE BELIEVE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE AGGRESSIVELY TO PRODUCE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY LIKE WIND AND SOLAR WE WILL EXPAND CONCEPTS LIKE THE PVA RIGHT NOW TO PRODUCE WIND AND SOLAR AND ACTUALLY MAKE A PROFIT ON THAT AS WE SELL IT TO ELECTRIC COMPANIES ALL OVER THE WORLD. THIRDLY, WE’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON THE MILITARY DEFENDING OIL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD. WE CAN CUT MILITARY SPENDING THERE, AS WELL. [ APPLAUSE ]>>FOURTHLY, OUR PROGRAM WILL CREATE UP TO 20 MILLION GOOD PAYING JOBS OVER THE PERIOD OF THE 15 YEARS AND WHEN WE DO THAT, YOU’LL HAVE A LOT OF TAXPAYERS OUT THERE PAYING MORE IN TAXES. YOU’LL HAVE PEOPLE NOT GETTING FOOD STAMPS AND SO FORTH. THOSE ARE THE BASIC WAYS WE PAY FOR THE PROGRAM BUT HOST IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE DEALING WITH WHAT THE SCIENTISTS CALL A THREAT TO THIS PLANET AND WE MUST RESPOND AGGRESSIVELY. WE MUST LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS THAT IS WHAT OUR PLAN DOES. >>I THINK THERE IS FOLKS WHO HEARD YOU SAY TALK ABOUT HIGHER TAXES PAYING MORE, WOULD YOU GUARANTEE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TONIGHT THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR $16.3 TRILLION WHICH IS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY WOULDN’T END UP ON TAXPAYERS’ SHOULDERS?>>IT WILL END UP ON SOME TAXPAYERS’ SHOULDERS IF YOU’RE IN THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY, YOU’LL BE PAYING MORE IN TAXES, THAT’S FOR SURE. I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE IN GENERAL THAT AT A TIME WHEN WE HAVE MASSIVE LEVELS OF INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY, THE RICHEST THREE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY OWN MORE WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE SOCIETY WERE MAJOR PROFITABLE CORPORATIONS LIKE AMAZON WHO MADE OVER $10 BILLION IN PROFITS DIDN’T PAY A NICKEL IN TAXES, MAY GUARANTEE JEFF BEZOS WON’T BE PAYING MORE IN TAXES? I WON’T. [ APPLAUSE ]>>I WANT YOU TO MEET JUSTINE, SHE’S A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF BROOKLYN AND A YOUTH CLIMATE GROUP. WELCOME. >>HI, SENATOR SANDERS. REALLY NICE TO MEET IN 2012, I WITNESSED HURRICANE SANDY RAVAGE THIS AREA. YOU HAVE WAVERED IN TIMES ON YOUR STANCE OF ELIMINATING THE FILIBUSTER. IF BAD ACTORS LIKE SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL INTEND TO USE THE FILIBUSTER TO BLOCK CLIMATE LEGISLATION?>>I HAVEN’T WAVERED. I BELIEVE THE SENATE SHOULD NOT BE THE HOUSE AND WE SHOULDN’T HAVE A MAJORITY BODY. WE NEED MAJOR FILIBUSTER REFORM AND SECOND OF ALL, JUST AS BUSH GOT THROUGH MAJOR TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH THROUGH THE BUDGET RECONCILIATION ACT, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. IF YOUR QUESTION IS, WE’RE GOING TO NEED 60 VOTES TO SAVE THE PLANET, THE ANSWER IS, NO, WE ARE NOT. THERE ARE WAYS TO GET THAT THROUGH THE ACT WHICH WILL REQUIRE 51 VOTES AND THAT’S THE METHOD WE WILL USE. >>I WANT YOU TO MEET MARK. HE’S A GRADUATE STUDENT STUDYING CLIMATE SCIENCE AT CORNELL UNIVERSITY.>>SENATOR SANDERS, IN YOUR GREEN NEW DEAL PLAN, YOU ARGUE THAT NUCLEAR ENERGY IS A FALSE SOLUTION TO THE CLIMATE CRISIS. HOWEVER GOING FORWARD, WE WILL NEED EVERY CONTRIBUTION FROM ALL RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PRODUCTION DOESN’T DEPEND ON THE TIME OF DAY AND CURRENT WEATHER CONDITIONS. HOW CAN YOU DISMISSES THIS ECONOMY WHEN IT WILL BE NECESSARY IN OUR COUNTRY’S INFRASTRUCTURE. >>THANK YOU, MARK. HERE’S THE ANSWER, MARK, WE GOT A HECK OF A LOT OF NUCLEAR WASTE WHICH IS GOING TO STAY AROUND THIS PLANET FOR MANY, MANY, MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS. AND WE DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF IT RIGHT NOW. IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO ME TO ADD MORE DANGEROUS WASTE TO THIS COUNTRY WHEN WE DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. IN TERMS OF COST, THE TRUTH IS, IT COSTS A LOT MORE TO BUILD A NEW NUCLEAR POWER PLANT TODAY THAN IT DOES TO GO TO SOLAR OR TO GO TO WIND. I THINK THAT IT IS SAFER AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO MOVE TO SUSTAINABLE ENERGIES LIKE WIND, SOLAR AND GEO THERMAL AND NOT NUCLEAR. [ APPLAUSE ]>>WE HAVE ANOTHER FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER FROM OUR CHIEF CLIMATE CORRESPONDENT BILL WEIR. >>I WANT TO FOLLOW ON MARK’S QUESTION. CURRENTLY THE U.S. GETS 20% OF OUR ELECTRICITY FROM NUCLEAR WHILE FRANCE IS ABOUT 70%, GRANTED THEY HAVE MUCH FEWER REACTORS THAN WE DO. DO YOU BELIEVE THE FRENCH ARE THAT MUCH MORE AT RISK AND OF WHAT EXACTLY. AND SINCE RENEWABLES LIKE SOLAR AND WIND TAKE MORE LAND, HOW CAN YOU GO CARBON NEUTRAL WITHOUT –>>I THINK THE SCIENTISTS TELL US THAT WE CAN AND I THINK IF YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN JAPAN IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN P THERE, THEY MAY NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH NUCLEAR POWER. I WISH THE PEOPLE IN FRANCE THE BEST. BUT I THINK THE WAY FORWARD, THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY FORWARD, THE WAY FORWARD THAT IS SAFEST IS MOVING TO SUSTAINABLE ENERGIES LIKE WIND AND GEO THERMAL. >>JUST TODAY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED PLANS TO OVERTURN REQUIREMENTS ON ENERGY SAVING LIGHTBULBS. IT’S A MOVE THAT COULD INCREASE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. WOULD YOU REINSTATE THOSE REQUIREMENTS?>>DUH! [ APPLAUSE ]>>HOW FAST WOULD YOU REINSTATE THOSE — >>LOOK, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT’S HAPPENING AND GIVES US SOME HOPE IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN EXPLOSION IN TECHNOLOGY IN MANY, MANY AREAS THAT IF WE HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL TO UTILIZE THAT TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN MAYBE SAVE THE PLANET. LET ME SAY THIS AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE GET TO LIGHTBULBS AND THAT IS, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS, THIS IS A DIFFICULT ISSUE. NOBODY HAS A MAGICAL SOLUTION. I DON’T. BUT THIS IS NOT JUST AN AMERICAN ISSUE. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT IMPACT IT IS ENTIRE WORLD. SO WHAT I WOULD DO UNLIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON THIS ISSUE, IN FACT, MADE IT SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE BY EXPANDING THE USE OF FOSSIL FUEL. WHAT I WILL DO. AND I’M NOT HERE TO TELL YOU THAT IT WILL HAPPEN LIKE THIS, BUT I THINK IT’S WORTH A TRY. IN THIS EXTRAORDINARY MOMENT OF GLOBAL CRISIS, I THINK WE NEED A PRESIDENT, HOPEFULLY BERNIE SANDERS, THAT REACHES OUT TO THE WORLD, TO RUSSIA AND CHINA AND INDIA, PAKISTAN AND SAY, GUESS WHAT, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WE’RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. IF YOU’RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHILDREN IN YOUR COUNTRY AND FUTURE GENERATIONS, WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. AND MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, INSTEAD OF SPENDING A TRILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS EVERY SINGLE YEAR ON WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTION DESIGNED TO KILL EACH OTHER, MAYBE WE POOL THOSE RESOURCES AND WE WORK TOGETHER AGAINST OUR COMMON ENEMY, WHICH IS CLIMATE CHANGE. [ APPLAUSE ]>>ONE OF THE — ACTUALLY, I FOLLOW THIS ISSUE OF L.E.D. LIGHTBULBS AND THERE HAVE BEEN HUGE BREAKTHROUGHS. WE USE MUCH LESS ELECTRICITY, THESE LIGHTBULBS LAST A LOT LONGER AND IT IS A MAJOR, MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH. BUT THAT ALSO SPEAKS, ANDERSON, TO THE ISSUE OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY. SO IT’S NOT JUST MOVING TO SUSTAINABLE ENERGIES, IT IS ALSO BEING MUCH MORE EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF THE ENERGY THAT WE USE. IF YOU CAN GET ELECTRICITY FROM A LIGHTBULB THAT UTILIZES ONE TENTH OF THE POWER THAT AN OLD LIGHTBULB USES, OF COURSE YOU’RE GOING TO DO THAT. OF COURSE YOU’RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE THAT TECHNOLOGY. IN VERMONT WE ARE MAKING IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE, HELPING PEOPLE BUY THOSE LIGHTBULBS AND IT IS IN MY COMMUNITY, IF I’M NOT MISTAKEN, OVER THE LAST MANY YEARS, DESPITE GOOD ECONOMIC GROWTH, WE ARE NOT USING ANY MORE ELECTRICITY THAN WE DID TEN YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE HAVE PUT INVESTMENTS INTO ENERGY EFFICIENCY. THAT’S THE DIRECTION WE’VE GOT TO GO. >>I GOT TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK. WE’LL HAVE MORE WITH THE SENATOR IN A MOMENT, PLUS SENATOR WARREN, MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG WILL TAKE THE STAGE AS WELL. WE>>>WE’RE BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR QUESTIONS FROM DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. UP NEXT YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR FROM SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN. WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS. WE’RE GOING TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS FROM OUR AUDIENCE.>>GOOD EVENING. HUMAN POPULATION GROWTH HAS DOUBLED. THE PLANET CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS GROWTH. I REALIZE THIS IS A POISONOUS TOPIC FOR POLITICIANS, BUT IT’S CRUCIAL TO FACE. EMPOWERING WOMEN AND EDUCATING EVERYONE ON THE NEED TO CURB POPULATION GROWTH SEEMS A REASONABLE CAMPAIGN TO ENACT. WOULD YOU BE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE. >>THE ANSWER IS YES. AND THE ANSWER HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAS, BY THE WAY, HAVE A RIGHT TO CONTROL THEIR OWN BODIES AND MAKE REPRODUCTIVE DECISIONS. [ APPLAUSE ]>>AND THE MEXICO CITY AGREEMENT, WHICH DENIES AMERICAN AID TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE WORLD THAT ALLOW WOMEN TO HAVE ABORTIONS OR EVEN GET INVOLVED IN BIRTH CONTROL TO ME IS TOTALLY ABSURD. SO I THINK ESPECIALLY IN POOR COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD WHERE WOMEN DO NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO HAVE LARGE NUMBERS OF BABIES AND WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH BIRTH CONTROL TO CONTROL THE NUMBER OF KIDS THEY HAVE, IT’S SOMETHING I VERY STRONGLY SUPPORT.>>I WANT TO INTRODUCE — SORRY, OUR NEXT GUEST, A GRADUATE STUDENT AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY STUDYING CLIMATE AND SOCIETY.>>GOOD EVENING. IN ORDER TO SUCCESSFULLY MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE U.S., WE’RE GOING TO REALISTICALLY — OR THE U.S. IS REALISTICALLY GOING TO HAVE TO WEAN ITSELF OFF OF FOSSIL FUEL USE COMPLETELY. UNFORTUNATELY THIS CAN ALSO MEAN THE LOSS OF JOBS. HOW WOULD YOU HELP WORKERS OF THE FOSSIL FUEL ENERGY TRANSITION TO OTHER RESPECTABLE FIELDS OF WORK IN A FUTURE GREEN ECONOMY. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT IMPORTANT QUESTION. I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE PERHAPS THE MOST PRO-WORKER MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS AND I’VE SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE FIGHTING FOR WORKERS. LET ME BE CLEAR, THE COAL MINERS IN THIS COUNTRY, THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK ON THE OIL RIGS, THEY ARE NOT MY ENEMY. WHAT IS MY ENEMY IS CLIMATE CHANGE. AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS BUILT INTO OUR PLAN, OUR $16 TRILLION PLAN TENS AND TENS OF BILLION DOLLARS OF DOLLARS FOR WHAT WE CALL A JUST TRANSITION AND THAT SAYS THAT IF SOME WORKER THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OR HER OWN LOSES THEIR JOB, WE’RE GOING TO GUARANTEE THEM AN INCOME FOR FIVE YEARS, WE’RE GOING TO GUARANTEE THEM THE EDUCATION THAT THEY NEED. THOSE WORKERS ARE NOT OUR ENEMIES. THEY SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED BECAUSE WE’RE TRYING TO SAVE THE PLANET. [ APPLAUSE ]>>I JUST WANT TO ASK, OF ALL OF YOUR PLANS, FREE PUBLIC COLLEGE, MEDICARE FOR ALL, ELIMINATING STUDENT DEBT — >>KEEP GOING.>>EVERY PRESIDENT HAS TO PRIORITIZE. WHAT IS THE PRIORITY ON CLIMATE CHANGE COMPARED TO ALL THESE OTHERS IF YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE?>>I HAVE THE RADICAL IDEA THAT A CONGRESS CAN WALK AND CHEW BUBBLE GUM AT THE SAME TIME. THERE ARE SO MANY CRISES THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY. I WORRY VERY MUCH THAT WE LOSE 30,000 PEOPLE A YEAR BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO TO A DOCTOR WHEN THEY SHOULD AND 87 MILLION PEOPLE ARE UNINSURED OR UNDERINSURED. AND I WILL IMPLEMENT A MEDICARE FOR ALL PROGRAM. WE’RE GOING TO CANCEL ALL STUDENT DEBT. TO MY MIND, IT’S NOT PRIORITIZING THIS OVER THAT, IT IS FINALLY HAVING A GOVERNMENT WHICH REPRESENTS WORKING FAMILIES AND THE MIDDLE CLASS RATHER THAN WEALTHY CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT — AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, THEN THINGS FALL IN PLACE. SO YOU CAN RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO A LIVING WAGE. BUT IN TERMS OF THIS ISSUE, I DON’T KNOW HOW ANY SANE PERSON CANNOT PUT IT AT THE VERY, VERY TOP OF THE LIST. LET ME STATE IDIOTIC. [ APPLAUSE ]>>WE HAVE A CLIMATE SCIENCE PROFESSOR AT MONMOUTH UNIVERSITY.>>HELLO, PROFESSOR. I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT FEMA RULES. ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF CHANGING FEMA RULES TO ENCOURAGE RETREAT FROM PROPERTIES THAT HAVE SUFFERED OR HAD CATASTROPHIC LOSSES AND HOW WOULD YOU IMPLEMENT THOSE CHANGES THAT’S FAIR AND EQUITABLE. >>WE HAVE THE ABSURD SITUATION WHERE FEMA WILL ONLY PAY TO REPAIR A FACILITY OR A PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE IT WAS BEFORE IT WAS DESTROYED. THAT’S PRETTY STUPID. IF IT WAS DESTROYED ONCE AND YOU REBUILD IT, IT’S DESTROYED TWICE, IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO PUT IT THERE AGAIN. THE ANSWER IS, ABSOLUTELY, WHICH RAISES THE BROADER QUESTION OF HOW WE’RE GOING TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES, LOOK, WE’RE NOT GOING TO TURN THIS THING AROUND TOMORROW. I WORRY VERY MUCH — I WAS JUST IN SOUTH CAROLINA LAST WEEK. THERE ARE SCIENTISTS WHO THINK THAT PARTS OF CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, WILL BE UNDER WATER. PARTS OF MIAMI WILL BE UNDER WATER. WHAT DO WE DO TO PROTECT THOSE COMMUNITIES, WHAT DO WE DO TO PROTECT PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO ARE OFTEN THE HARDEST HIT BY THE IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE. WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL SUMS OF MONEY. >>WOULD PEOPLE ON THE BEACH HAVE TO MOVE?>>I DON’T THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO REBUILD THAT HOUSE SO IT IS, YOU KNOW, KNOCKED DOWN AGAIN IN THE NEXT STORM.>>HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS PRESIDENT?>>ALL OF — WELL, YOU DO YOUR BEST THROUGH CARROTS AND STICKS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. IF PEOPLE WANT TO REBUILD IN AN AREA WHICH WILL BE DEVASTATED BY THE NEXT STORM, THEY’RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GET ANY FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FROM MY ADMINISTRATION TO DO THAT. >>LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT CARS, ELECTRIC CARS. WE LOVE OUR CARS AND TRUCKS. HOW DO YOU MANAGE TO GET PEOPLE TO RELINQUISH THE CAR THEY LOVE FOR AN ELECTRIC CAR THAT MAY BE SLOWER OR LESS POWERFUL INITIALLY?>>YOU DO IT WITH FINANCIAL INCENTIVES. YOU MAKE IT WORTH PEOPLE’S WHILE BY HEAVILY SUBSIDIZING THE INDUSTRY. WE CAN CREATE A WHOLE LOT OF JOBS BY MOVING AWAY FROM INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE CARS TO ELECTRIC CARS. AND EVERY DAY THESE CARS ARE DEVELOPING A LONGER RANGE AND THEY’RE MORE POWERFUL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, ANDERSON, THIS IS WHERE I START FROM. IF I START FROM THE MORAL POSITION THAT WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN WITH COUNTRIES ALL OVER THE WORLD TO SAVE THIS PLANET FOR OUR CHILDREN AND FUTURE GENERATIONS, AND THAT WILL MEAN CHANGE, THAT WILL MEAN CHANGE. AND I THINK THAT WHAT A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS GOT TO DO IS MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD WHAT THE DANGERS ARE IN WE DO NOT ACT. WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE? NOBODY IN THIS ROOM, JUST THINK ABOUT IT, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, WANTS TO LOOK YOUR KID OR GRANDCHILDREN IN THE EYE AND HAVE THAT CHILD SAY TO YOU, GRANDPA, YOU KNEW BACK IN 2020, 2019 WHAT THE SCIENTISTS WERE SAYING. YOU DIDN’T DO ANYTHING. AND LOOK AT THE WORLD YOU GAVE ME. THAT IS NOT ANYTHING I WANT ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM OR IN THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE TO FACE.>>WE HAVE A VIDEO FROM A QUESTIONER, SHE’S A RETIRED MINISTER FROM DENVER, COLORADO. RACHEL?>>AS WE MOVE TOWARD TRYING TO SAVE OUR PLANET, HOW WILL YOU ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY SMALL ONES WHO WILL BE EXPECTED TO CONFORM TO CHANGES IN THE LAW TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT THAT MIGHT COST THEM MONEY, USING SUSTAINABLE PRODUCTS.>>WELL, WHAT — YOU KNOW, THE REASON WE ARE MAKING SUCH A BIG INVESTMENT IS TO INCENTIVIZE AND PROTECT SMALL BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY. MY GOAL IS TO SEE A MASSIVE INCREASE IN THE USE OF WIND AND SOLAR AND WE WILL HELP PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT. GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE CRAZY THINGS THAT GOES ON RIGHT NOW. IF YOU INSTALL — WE HAVE — JANE AND I HAVE PUT SOLAR ON OUR HOUSE. WITH THE TAX CREDIT THAT IS WE GOT, WE PAY IT OFF IN SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AND WE HAVE FREE ELECTRICITY. IT’S A GOOD INVESTMENT. WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT. THERE A LOT OF FAMILIES WHO CANNOT AFFORD THAT. SO WE’RE GOING TO MAKE POSSIBLE TO LEND THOSE PEOPLE THAT MONEY TO PUT THE SOLAR UP ON THEIR ROOFS. THEY WILL NOT BE PAYING A NICKEL MORE AND THEN THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE FREE ELECTRIC AFTER THAT. THAT IS A SANE APPROACH WHICH ALSO CREATES JOBS. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO. >>DURING A CRISIS, DURING A WAR, PRESIDENTS HAVE ASKED AMERICANS TO SACRIFICE IN DIFFERENT WAYS. FOR SOMEONE LISTENING AT HOME TONIGHT, WHAT IS THE GREATEST PERSONAL SACRIFICE YOU ARE ASKING AN AMERICAN TO MAKE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE? TO STOP CLIMATE CHANGE?>>I THINK WE ARE — WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE — WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE’RE DOING RIGHT NOW. MANY OF THE PRODUCTS THAT WE’RE USING. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEIR CAR, AND WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE, LET’S WORK TOGETHER TO SAVE THE PLANET. MAYBE PEOPLE LIKE OLD-FASHIONED LIGHTBULBS. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY WE CAN SAVE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY BY USING L.E.D.s. SO I THINK THAT IN ITS TOTALITY WHAT WE ARE SAYING TO PEOPLE THAT IN AGRICULTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE SAYING THAT WE’RE GOING TO END FACTORY FARMING BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ONLY — THAT IS A DANGER TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND TO CLIMATE CHANGE. AND THERE WILL BE A TRANSITION. THERE WILL BE A TRANSITION AND THERE WILL BE SOME PAIN THERE. WE’RE GOING TO PUT MONEY INTO PROTECTING FAMILY-BASED AGRICULTURAL. YOU CAN GET THAT FOOD AS MUCH AS WE CAN, GET IT LOCALLY. THERE’S GOING TO BE CHANGE AND WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES NOW EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THE SAKE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS.>>SENATOR SANDERS, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ]>>COMING UP, SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN IS NEXT, THEN MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG AND CONGRESSMAN BETO O’ROURKE. WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK. Wireless is full of “awards”. Number one in overall network
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